Video - Vasyl Lomachenko - The new P4P King?

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  1. Rumsfeld

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  2. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    I humbly disagree. Crawford is p4p #1 but good video.
     
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  3. Robney

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    Great morning to you to Rummy.

    The P4P discussion is one for the ages, because it's personal preference combined with the skill and achievements debate with almost everyone balancing that differently.
    That said, the P4P claims at the time haven't been that great, leaving a lot open for debat as I actually had Crawford edging it as my number one on basis of his skills and becoming undisputed in his 2nd weightclass recently, despite the opposition haven't been that great. Now there's not much doubt for me anymore going with the same criteria here, Lomachenko is more talented (duh) and with his latest display dismanteling of Rigo (although I epected as much), his titles in two weightclasses combined with his records and opposition, he seems to have proven that he's the man right now.
     
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  4. CST80

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    Lomachenko beats perennial P4Per Rigondeaux and two guys at the top tier of their divisions Walters and Gary Russell Jr.

    Bud beats a guy who lucked out with a Maatthysse eye injury Viktor Postol and Julius Indongo, and a shrimpy little midget Gamboa who'd looked terrible in the matches leading up to Bud and Gamboa still managed to win 4 rounds off of him and almost KO'd him in the 9th. And he's P4P Number 1?


    Get the **** outta here.:lol:
     
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    Also, if you can take the polls seriously at the moment, that are obviously colored by the buzz he created that short after the fight, it's kinda clear who most think is the #1 now.
     
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  6. KiwiMan

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    Good video.
     
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  7. CST80

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    Good video Rummy, and I agree, its pretty cut and dried at this point.

    If Bud's best win was Gamboa, who he drug up basically 2 divisions. Who hadn't achieved a career defining P4P win like Rigo had over Donaire, then full credit for the Rigo win should be given to Loma. He didn't win because he imposed his size, he won by outclassing and outboxing the master boxer, it was an utter schooling, he befuddled Rigo so much that he was completely overwhelmed mentally and quit, the fourth in a row. That phenomenon alone should put him at number 1, its not often fighters reach into their opponents chest and tear out their heart, will and soul leaving them a broken confused mess that want no more after 6 rounds. He's the man to beat at the moment, and I don't see many that can accomplish that, not Mikey and quite frankly, I have my doubts Crawford could either.
     
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  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Let the perennial Loma move up and fight Crawford and see if he does better than Gamboa instead of dragging guys with a lost prior to moving up a weight class while getting busted up while showboating and 40 year old inactive midgets. Walters was inactive as well and wasn’t even ranked top 5 in the division when Loma faced him and neither was GRJ.

    Plus don’t play like you weren’t one of those idiots claiming Indongo victory before he got his body snatched. Just stop before you even begin. Matchmaking has been a major part of Loma’s rise plus he has an L.

    Beat Mickey with no fucurry-chicken in place where guys are inactive and starved out and I’ll give it to your boy temporarily until Crawford takes a scalp at 147 after Horn. Simple as that.

    Undisputed is greater than anything Loma has done to this point.
     
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  9. qwertyblahblah

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    You should be calling Bud number 1 after he beat the monster you built up in Postol!
     
  10. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Gamboa beat the guy who handed your guy his first L. In fact Gamboa made Salido the crybaby during the fight running to the ref and complaining. Remember that.
     
  11. CST80

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    I picked Crawford to win by KO in Kirk's thread, go check, I was trolling, I even picked Burns to beat Indongo, Indongo was complete and utter ****. I rank the Diaz win much higher than that one hit wonder. Undisputed doesn't mean **** if you're king of a shitheap, which is exactly what LWW is.

    Oh and now that narrative begins, just like that tired ass trope about GGG moving up to face Ward. What? Are you all such casuals that you don't know any other fighters at 130 or 135? Mikey! Mikey! Mikey! Bud! Bud! Bud! I only wish that Mayweather fans had of pushed him towards greatness and rode his ass for a decade to face Pacquiao, oh yeah, that's right, they didn't, they MADE EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE. Well I make no excuse, I want Loma to miove up and face both of them and beat them, so you can shut the **** up. But here's the reality, if he did... the goalpost will be moved another 300 yards down the field, because that's what propagandists like you do.


    As far as Salido goes... that's all you have to cling to.... But, But , But Siri.... Well I have an answer for that...

    **** you he just beat Guillermo mother****ing Rigondeaux. Real fighters that take risks take L's, take your precious 0 and stick it up your ass.
     
  12. CST80

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    Let's hear all the bums you hyped up genius.
     
  13. Birmingham

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    Hes beat better comp than Crawford. He has to be no 1 now !
     
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  14. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Should I waste my time bumping all the Rigo threads before he was signed to fight Loma and what you guys really thought about him plus he wasn’t on any pundits p4p top 10 list. Let’s see your boy start taking real risks which is the main reason I don’t have him at p4p #1. Stop fighting starved inactive fighters. Simple as that and you are full of excuses.
     
  15. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    His success is mostly due to matchmaking period. Make real power moves then we’ll talk.