Video - Vasyl Lomachenko - The new P4P King?

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  1. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Only because it owned you and you did read it.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Actually I didn't I'm Christmas shopping for people on Amazon.com at the moment going back and forth between this site and that one, and I saw a long ass diatribe and saw enough to realize it was off topic, so I deleted it. You can't own me, because I don't actually care what you think, I don't care if you think I'm gay or straight or Christian or Muslim or Right or Left or Satanist or Pagan, because I think you're a deluded bigoted tool, and your opinion of me means nothing to me. Same goes for anyone else who doesn't like me. It should be pretty obvious to you by now, you lose when you step to me, because you are not and WILL NEVER BE on my level, in regards to anything.
     
  3. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the same overtime I log on here and see this ****. luckily, the majority of posters on here can be sensible and debate with logic and not prejudice.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    #1.GGG
    #2. Crawford
    #3. Loma

    2&3 is neck and neck.

    Crawford edges Loma for me since he beat more title holders and is a two weight lineal champ and the first undisputed champ in 15 years. Loma was never the man in his two weight classes and he has no top 10 wins at 130.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    I really don't care what "those guys" thought about Rigondeux.

    I care about YOU claiming that Rigondeux isn't a real threat and about YOUR opinion of Rigondeux vs Steve Marquez as a guy's 9th fight.

    In case you forgot, I said:

    "Maybe it's just me, but I think Rigondeux at 17-0 is better than Marquez at 9-14-1.

    What do you think?"


    Well? What DO you think?

    I'll tell you freely, speaking for myself, that Rigonduex was not my favourite boxer, and his style was not my favourite style. I also think that he wasn't as jizz-inducing as many of his fans made him out to be, although Rigo is certainly an elite.

    I think Rigo is an excellent adversary to be viewed with the caveats that you mentioned. I don't see a problem with stating that he was a bit smaller and older than Lomachenko and that there's a possibility that he was telling the truth when he claimed his hand was broken, although I think that it's probably bull****.

    Your problem is that you got super-indignant and sucked your panties up your crack and began to compare Lomachenko with Crawford (without actually taking a moment to think about what Crawford was doing on his 2nd or 9th fight) and then compounded your error by claiming a man's 2nd fight can be a cherrypick. Now you've painted yourself into a corner and have resorted to finessing the finer points of shemale porn as opposed to actually answering what are perfectly reasonable questions.

    Maybe chill out, admit that you over-reacted, and base your argument of Loma not being p4p #1 on something else.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Christ, when even Dino puts up a better argument than you ... you know it's time for you to call it a day, TheyDontBoxNoMore7
     
  7. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Garry Russell Jr, Rigondeaux and Walters are superior to the fighters Crawford has beaten imo.
     
  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Theres no other active fighter that made a pfp top 5 fighter quit halfway through the fight.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You should include some context. There are no other active fighters that made a top 5 p4p fighter who was inactive, 37(in the 122 pound division, history boxing tells us guys south of 130 age bad), and moved up 2 weight classes quit halfway through the fight.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't have a problem with you putting him p4p #1 @Rumsfeld. I have Crawford and Loma basically 1a and 1b. Also I know you're not some bigoted dip**** and actually gave other fighters a fair shake when you made this assessment. My only gripe is if you have Loma p4p #1 now you should have had him there before Rigo. Loma himself said this was not a big win for him and it's not Rigo's weight class.
     
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  11. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Rigo was undefeated and ducked by pretty much everyone sub 130, add that to the context as well.
     
  12. BCS8

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    Agreed that this was not as good a win as it would have been if they had, say, met halfway on the weight and if Rigo had been 5 years younger. But even Loma said "it's not his weightclass". I still think it's a pretty good win though.

    Especially if you consider that Loma didn't really rely on his size so much as his speed and skill.
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    By sub 130 do you mean 130 and below or 126 and below? If you mean 130 and below who ducked him at 130? But sure we can add that he was undefeated and ducked by some 122 pounders who moved up to 126 YEARS ago.
     
  14. Cafe

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    Walters for one
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    When did Walters duck Rigo? And you named one 130 fighters. That's hardly pretty much everyone. Also Walters became irrelevant after Loma so if this happened post Loma, then sure.. a 130 fighter whose basically irrelevant now didn't want to fight Rigo?