Video - Vasyl Lomachenko - The new P4P King?

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  1. BEATDOWNZ

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    /thread.
     
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  2. gmurphy

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    I listened to that 78 in the car for a laugh yesterday.

    I host came across as level headed compared to the other loons.

    One guy who said rigo was going to hammer him said rigo lost because.
    1. He was old.
    2. He broke his hand.
    3. He was too small.
    4. The whole thing was rigged by arum to begin with.

    Followed by him saying loma needs to move up and fight crawford. And that he aint ****. If he aint **** why does he need to move up 3 divisions to fight a p4p boxer lol.

    The show is very entertaining though. Are these the guys who said Walters had better footwork than lomachenko?

    Its like they need they don't even watch boxing
     
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  3. Serge

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    :lol: the funniest one I heard, and these clowns genuinely believed it no doubt, was that the reason the fight wasn't being promoted enough and being give media attention a fight of its magnitude deserved was because Arum knew Rigoblin was going to beat Loma. These people are insane lol

    Yes Loma has to move up and beat Crawford and jump through hoops to earn the #1 spot but he has Spence at #3 off of the back of beating Brook and Algieri lol

    No that was Boxing Beats and Rhymes' Loma vs Walters tales of the tape
     
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  4. marting

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    Very nice Rummy. You sure ignited some heated debate. :stirrpot As far as P4P King I think Loma has to be in consideration. He's got a fan friendly style, moves that impress even the hardcore boxing aficionado and a willingness to fight all comers. Plus he's building a fan base across the board. I'm seeing new fans and casual fans taking interest in him. Even his detractors wouldn't dare miss one of his fights. And being popular certainly doesn't hurt in a discussion of P4P King.
     
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  5. mirkofilipovic

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    Lomachenko is such a likeable guy, I wonder if he was Russian, played a villain and was a talker would more people go watch his fights to see him lose?
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

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    I dropped the ball by not mentioning his name in this one.
     
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  7. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Your video was fine. People placed relevant arguments as to why Loma would be placed higher and yes, I trolled those guys but still. P4p has become more subjective than ever. It’s just the times.
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

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    I didn't really give much thought to the P4P best since Ward retired, as I think the landscape was (and still remains) a bit uncertain. While I do think Lomachenko is the best right now, and that he's best positioned to be widely recognized as the best, I do still feel he needs to continue proving himself to solidify his case.

    In other words, whether you think it's Lomachenko, or Crawford, or Gennady or someone else - we aren't in a situation right now, like with Floyd, where he was clearly, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the #1 P4P guy.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    Thanks. But I still should have mentioned him quickly, like I mentioned GGG in passing. I wasn't really looking to make a P4P list in this video, per se. I was kind of caught between wanting to do a fight recap and wanting to share my general views on Lomachenko. But at some point while making this, I changed course somewhat, and didn't make a point of mentioning Bud or some others. Live and learn.

    :smoking:
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

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    Casual fans I know haven't gotten fully on board with him yet. I'm talking the types that watch a handful of bigger fights each year, and little else. Many of them are interested in GGG at this point, but sooner or later I think Lomachenko will make his way into their rotation so to speak.
     
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  11. gmurphy

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    I also liked after the fight when he was like 'damn i need to re evaluate lomachenko, i must have missed something' this truly rocked there world.

    The one he did on lomachenko and white priveledge is insane, he think that they hand things to these eastern Europeans. Ffs they complain rigo only got paid 400k, what about the 100k kovalev got for unify 3 belts!

    They are either brain washed or racist because they are completely delusional and don't even realise it

    Do them guys still make videos? I mean lomachenko has a good claim to best footwork of all time lol
     
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  12. DanielDimov

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    Who is Chris Williams that posts in the original site???????????? He still trashes Lomachenko.
     
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