(Videos) Explain to me why Wilder has a solid chin and Joshua has a glass chin?

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  1. ryuken87

    ryuken87 Active Member Full Member

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    Both seem to have comparable chins.

    When hurt, a fighter's fitness and athleticism can help keep them up, which I think is the case with Wilder.
     
  2. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Were you being serious? Please note that I have no way of knowing whether a threat is real or sarcasm. I was once threatened with getting hit on the head with an iron tube because I said that professional wrestling was staged. So one never knows how people will react to a comment.
     
  3. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder is extra dangerous because he follows his hooks with elbows and because his punches seem to land on the back of the head and neck with unusual frequency. He will also hurl his opponent to the canvas judo style if he becomes frustrated when the opponent doesn't immediately go down. The impact on the knees when a HW lands on them as Ortiz after being hurled to the canvas that way can be decisively traumatic.
     
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  4. Vykus

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    Let's just be real, both of them have good chins. Not perfect, but they have both held them up so far.
     
  5. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While I agree on most of your points, AJ wasn't up straight away - it took him full 9 seconds from the time he hit the floor till his both gloves touched off the canvas.
     
  6. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The question is will Joshuah be able to absorb punches, elbows and shots to the back of the head and neck. I don't think so.
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think either have "glass" chins per se,
    they don't have iron jaws either. What stands out
    is that Wilder apparently has a level of will power
    and tenacity to weather big shots that none of us thought was there.
    That is very telling.
     
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  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Joshua's chin isnt terrible in terms of recovery but his tank does empty when clipped and he was very lucky to survive the WK knockdown. Wilder's chin is more suspect for me, not china but it was lucky to get through his only real test and was exposed vs fringe bum Molina and two journeymen.
     
  9. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    If you want to split hairs, he was up at the count of 7.
     
  10. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest with you I think what Hearn has sold AJ on is just a ****in' lie, and I don't understand what is wrong with selling the truth except for maybe England just isn't as accepting of different forms.

    He's meant to be the most skilled, most refined, most talented, the proper portrayal of boxing theory, but he isn't.

    He's got **** posture, which leads to **** positioning, which leads to **** gap control, which causes **** punch structure, forcing a drain on **** energy causing him to have **** stamina. He's as green as one would expect him to be having fought a bunch of low talent hacks and a champ who went a decade as champ, true, but not once during that whole decade ever utilized pro techniques rather opting for a unique level of amatuer technique exclusive to Wlad's reign.

    What Joshua has, what actually wins fights for AJ, is his power and chin. His skills got him to bite every bait cast his direction. His skills got him face to canvas. His heart, his chin, that's what picks that boy up, and his power is what carries him despite being so ****in' wrong in substance and form.

    If he was talented worth a **** the kid would have just worked angles, like Fury did. He didn't do that. He pressured Wlad right on Wlad's track. He went at him ten time more Marciano than he did Ali and here we all talk like the kid's Ali. He ain't, he ain't even close, but hey you gotta respect that determination.

    That said, it's unfair to choose which at this point actually has the better chin. Ain't the saying " It's the one you didn't see coming?" Who's to say AJ would see Ortiz the same or that Wilder would see Wlad the same? Either one of those men should be suspect to the other's big puncher, but neither at this point should be labeled glass. Clearly got decent constitution. Maybe legendary.
     
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  11. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Aj got badly hurt by whyte and got knocked down and was completely out on his feet against klitchsko but was given imo a long count plus alot of help from the ref alot of refs could have easily stopped and wilder first time he steps up he got knocked down and completely out on his feet and just like aj gets help from the ref so both chins are probably on level terms and wouldn't be surprised at all if both were stopped
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thread over. I didn’t even have to type a response.
     
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  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad has become the hardest puncher pfp ever. That right that he hit Joshua with which isn’t even Wlads best punch imo (let the Joshua fanatics tell you) was harder than the 30+ hard punches that Wilder took on the chin lmao.
     
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  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    People saying everybody would have gone down by the punch that Joshua was dropped by are a somewhat biased.

    Look at this right hand that Kubrat Pulev took in 2:00:
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    That was also after he already had been dropped a couple times(!)

    Despite this all I want to say is that Joshua's chin is solid enough.

    Wilder's not so much...
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're right he wasn't up immediately from that right. He actually got on to his feet at 7 not 9 and the ref continued another second and stopped the count at 8 seconds.

    Joshua did immediately get to a kneeling position though, he still had enough wherewithal to consciously stay down for as long as he needed to recover. That might be significant, when Joshua is hurt/dropped he is calm and calculated enough to stay down the recover as much as possible. He of course also possibly spat out his mouth guard after getting hurt in the 5th round, he knows how to bide time to recover. If Wilder does drop him, Joshua may very well have enough experience to bide time, recoup and recover. Does Wilder have the smarts and experience to do the same if dropped or will he jump up too soon and leave himself vulnerable when hurt.
     
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