Vincente Salvidar vs Sal Sanchez

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Great thread

    Sanchez by close decision or late stoppage
     
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  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Sour grapes by Castillo

    Sanchez handled him better than arguello
     
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  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Because trolls like choke ruin the threads
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    These guys are such great fighters that it can just go either way. I picked Salvidar but there's just no wrong answer here.
     
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  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Than who? He fought a competitive fight with Sanchez, to a decision, which he still maintains he won. He was in a close fight with Arguello until being stopped. Chavez stopped him in six.
     
  6. Russell

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    Funny how you never see any of the Primo heavyweight or bust contingent lend their opinion to an actual fantastic match-up like this thread.

    I'm convinced most posters on here just hang around in the wood work contributing nothing until something perfectly falling in line with either a fighter they're big on or something they take offense to.
     
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  7. SuzieQ49

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    Sanchez won a clear cut decision. Arguello was behind on the cards until he stopped Castillo. Castillo was past his prime when he fought Chavez
     
  8. SuzieQ49

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    It’s called “trolls”
     
  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People forget that Sal beat 23-2 Rocky Garcia by UD in Dallas (5/8/82), 6 months after Garcia lost to Ruben Castillo, and Sanchez winning by SD over 19-2 Patrick Crowdell at the same Nov. 1981 time frame in Houston.

    Sanchez was on his 2-fight Texas Tour.

    Sal's next & last fight was against 13-0 Azumah Nelson.

    So the Sal's last 3 fights were against relatively "inexperienced" fighters, fight-wise.

    People who watched the last 3 Sanchez fights on TV in late 81 & 1982, began to wonder a little.

    It is possible that Gomez fight may have taken more out of Sanchez than what
    was told the Public.


    1982-05-08 : Salvador Sanchez 126 lbs beat Rocky Garcia 125¾ lbs by UD in round 15 of 15
    • WBC Featherweight Title
    • Weights: Sanchez 126; Garcia 125¾
     
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  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not sure that really explains the variety posters on the Primo contingent around here.
     
  11. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Whether he was past his best or not, and he was, Ruben was still fighting at a very high level; in any event, that his more or less irrelevant when it comes to his ability to assess the skills of Chavez, or to compare them to another fighter.

    Technically, Arguello was leading on two cards after ten but all three cards were 97-96. As you know, Arguello built his fights and closed strong, and Castillo was very good. Good enough, in fact, that I reckon he was likely ahead of Sanchez after ten as well. As I recall Sanchez closed strong and the margin of his victory on the cards came then. Sanchez, like Arguello, took his time and put in the work to finish strong.

    But, again, the particulars of scoring and such have nothing to do with his ability to assess and compare the skills of two (or three) guys that he fought. He has said that Chavez was the best he fought and he has said that Arguello was the best; he has always said that both of them were much better than Sanchez.

    That is his opinion. He has spent his entire life in boxing so he certainly understands the activity, and fighters and the subtleties and nuances that define differences in skill. Before he fought them, I'm sure he studied the styles of Chavez, Arguello and Sanchez. Then he fought them. To dismiss it as "sour grapes" ....fair enough. It is only his opinion, based on his experience.

    Why do you consider it to be no more than"sour grapes"?
     
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Castillo sounds like a jealous, butt hurt nonentity to me.
     
  13. Tin_Ribs

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    I'm with greynotsoold, Sanchez-Castillo was close as hell, I think I scored it a draw and Castillo definitely had an argument for winning, though so did Sal. Castillo's jab, lateral movement, grasp of the angles and measured approach really gave Sanchez a lot of trouble, though he finished strongly when Castillo slowed down a bit.

    Sanchez-Saldivar is one of the atg matchups at feather, a proper blend of opposing styles with each of them fighting with a method that the other tended to handle. Saldivar's straight left down the pipe versus Sal's left hook. Saldivar a bit quicker of hand and foot with a slightly heavier punch and an edge in strength, Sanchez a better counter puncher and better fighting going backwards with a harder chin. Both with peerless stamina and similar accuracy with their shots.
     
  14. Tin_Ribs

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    Great post mate
     
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  15. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sanchez prime was tragically so short 80 -82 like SRL 79 - 81 . Salvidar prime was 64 - 70 and may have the best wins of any FW champion and is woefully underrated now while Sanchez who career cut short slightly overrated.
    I will go on Salvidar because of his higher quality of opposition. Salvidar on pts.
     
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