Vintage 147 Montreal Duran vs. PBF. Who and how?

Nothing to add,really. I totally agree with you.

 

Duran beat the sh!t out of Carlos Palomino on the ropes.

PBF would have to "move" ala SRL to have a chance.

 

How would Floyd have a chance against a prime Roberto Duran if he can't even beat Vernon Forrest, Prime Mayorga, Donald Curry, and Lloyd Honeyghan? :roll:

 

Look, Duran is ALWAYS going to be a bad match up for Floyd.

130/147/whatever.

Duran would of been someone that Floyd should of avoided (providing that they were in the same era).

 

I'm buying into the floyd hype. He can do it all. I think despite not leaving a great ww legacy, he would beat most out there. He only loses to better fighters.

That being said, duran is, imo, a better fighter.

Whilst he might be open to floyd's left hook and he'll struggle to land cleanly, his power, strength and body shots will tell.

He'd be physically stronger than floyd and just as quick. He wins a close ud. Maybe 8-4, 7-5. Taking ever round from 6 onwards.

 

Mayweather UD - his defence,counter punching and reach would see him land the cleaner stuff and he has the better stamina/conditioning. Duran is great, excellent skill level and the better puncher but I don't think it's enough and the style just doesn't suit him

No just no, the rest of your argument is reasonable, except Floyd has very much underrated strength

Or we could look at how Duran was dominated by Benitez, Laing and in Leonard 2+3 when Ray moved. I'm sure you'll say Duran was past prime, well Mayweather is now and Cotto and Castillo were physically bigger men when he fought them, having around 10lbs of solid weight as an in the ring advantage

 

Duran could match leonard punch for punch in montreal. His hands weren't blazing but he'd certainly keep up.

Floyd is strong, it's just that duran is stronger. Could you imagine floyd matching barkley for strength?

 

1. Because it was fought in a phone booth and Leonard's defence isn't that good, Duran certainly isn't as quick though

2. That's a 160lb Duran and he didn't match Barkley for strength, he outskilled him and his great power/punching technique hurt Barkley. Mayweather probably doesn't have the power to keep Barkley off him, I'm not sure. Ring strength is different to power though

 

Judging how floyd fights physically strong opponents, this too would be fought in a phonebooth against the ropes. By the time floyd wants to take the fight outside on his bike, I think the body work of duran will have got to floyd.

He fought well against bald but skillwise it's not even worth a mention.

Yes it was but duran was physically strong at every weight. I'm basically saying I don't see floyd walking duran down and I do see duran forcing floyd to the ropes.

It's intriguing to say the least and I wouldn't bet on the fight.

 

Floyd going to the ropes is a possibility although early on it's more likely he commands the centre of the ring. This turns it into Benitez-Duran scenario, Mayweather is like the mirror of Benitez, in many ways. Duran would have success pressuring but Floyd's defence neutralises this success to a degree. He only really goes to the ropes to take breaks before turning the pace up. Duran's chasing and pressuring also likely sees him fade down the stretch in terms of activity.

For the record, who's actually had any real success with Mayweather against the ropes? Cotto didn't really, he mainly missed. Castillo did in fight 1, but again nothing devastating and in fight 2 he couldn't land, Hatton couldn't land anything, Ortiz couldn't land anything, Delahoya couldn't.

I see the first 10 rounds as been relatively even with Mayweather taking the championship rounds as Duran fades

 

Duran at his peak brought that intensity and pressure every round. Floyd like Ray Leonard would find Duran a very hard target to hit. Roberto could come forward and at the same time keep his defense together while on the attack.

Floyd would also make Duran miss alot of punches to the head but Duran would just keep firing off. He wouldnt let Mayweather set a slow pace. The body attack of Duran would be the key to him eventually scoring up top later in the fight.


I believe Floyd has guts once that bell rings but he hasn seen anything like this before. It would be a new experiance for $ Mayweather and also his first loss.

Duran TKO late or UD.

 

Duran would have given the finger to Floyd's boyfriend brfore the fight.