Violent Elmer Rey V Bob Fitzsimmons ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Dec 7, 2018.


  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Two lethal hitters sharing the ring .
    Who takes it ?

    1890s gloves /1940s fights duration s and 15 rounds.
     
  2. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    IRON!
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ray for me, but it is yet another where the footage really isn't there for me.

    I just have a hard time believing that those early fighters who fought black smiths and circus strong men in the straight-up style could handle modern heavies, and Ray, who had wins over Charles, Walcott, and Savold, was a good one.

    Sorry he never got a shot.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yep just been reading up about Ray ,when he think of some of the plebs that got a title shot and not him ,seems a little unjust .
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If you put a gun to my head I would say Fitzsimmons.

    Ray was a tough guy, who could be stopped by a good puncher, and his style kept him in the danger zone.

    My hunch is that Fitzsimmons would lure him into some sort of trap, and then close the deal.
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Elmer "Kid Violent" Ray (March 3, 1911 – May 20, 1987) was an American heavyweight boxer who fought from 1926 to 1949.[1] He was born in Federal Point, Florida. Ray was known as a hard puncher and had a career record of 86 (with 70 knockouts)-13-1. Ray never fought for the title, but did fight future heavyweight champions Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott. In three fights with Walcott, Ray suffered a three round knockout on September 25, 1937, rebounded to outpoint Walcott on November 15, 1946, and lost the third fight by decision (April 3, 1947). He defeated Charles on a split decision on July 25, 1947, but was knocked out in the 9th round of their rematch on May 7, 1948. He also boxed light heavyweight champion John Henry Lewis, but was stopped in the 12th round on May 19, 1938.[1]
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Bob Fitzsimmons could probably handle Evander Holyfield circa 1991
     
  8. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still don't think the nom de plume "Violent" or "Kid Violent" has been matched by a professional fighter in the years since.