Virgil Hill vs. Dmitry Bivol

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is pretty obvious you alway go with teh Russian fighter
     
  2. Mendoza

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    No, I pick who I think will win. You on the hand do not.

    Quick, Roy Jones vs Bivol and Bob Foster vs Bivol. Bivol losses them both. That's pretty obvious, right? I'll let it go, I'm not here to teach you.
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Bivol losing to Foster is not obvious. Foster never beat anyone that good.
     
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  4. NoNeck

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    Bivol is obviously better than Hearns at 175. That doesn't even require explanation.

    Hill cracked the Ring PFP annual once in 1989 at the 9 spot. Bivol is finishing the year at 6. Losing to Hearns and fighting weak opp for years until going 1-2 against Maske, Dariusz, and Jones does not make you untouchable.
     
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  5. Cobra33

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    Foster would take his head off. If Smith Stunned Bivol what the hell do you think Foster is going to do? Jesus get a grip.
    Hill beat almost everyone put in front of him for a long time and he beat some pretty good fighters.
    Hearns would be a problem for Bivol simply because nobody has ever outjabbed Hearns and thats Bivols bread and butter.
     
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  6. aerows123

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    I always find it funny when people say something like "if x stunned y then z would easily beat y". Bob Foster got beat by fighters that aren't as good as Bivol. Using your logic, Bum/journeyman (also a late replacement) doug jones knocked Bob Foster down in the 1st and hurt him badly in the 7th and again in the 8th before stopping Foster. What would Bivol do?
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    Hill was not an all time top 15 great at light heavy. He's probably not a top 20 guy due to the talent that we have had in this division. That's what make this the interesting because Bivol's career is still going and if he beats Beterbeiv the #1 vs #2 light heavy of his time, is likely a HOF member which Hill is not. He needs more fights to judge correctly.

    Did Hill ever win such a big match? No, but he lost a lot when matched vs the best. What's Hill's best wins, just asking his fans. My point is made.
     
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  8. NoNeck

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    Doesn't work that way, pal.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    While I agree that Foster opposition is very thin at light heavy, but the match is tough to call because Bivol never proved his chin! Boxing from a range I think Bivol losses. But seriously who did Foster beat @175? I open and listening.

    If Bivol proves to have a grade A chin, and he proved he can beat a longer armed opponent by taking blows than I'll say he has a good chance to win this fantasy match up. He hasn't shown that yet is his career which has several more good years left. He's only 31.

    Getting back for Foster he lost two guys who weighed 180 and 182. Bivol of course us this weight on fight night, and Foster down in another light heavyweight match.

    I'm not talking about his match with Terell, Frazier or Ali! A less than skilled " Tommy Hearns " type of Light heavyweight of we are being honest.
     
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  10. THE BLADE 2

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    That does not help because there it is very obvious. You would be making a complete fool of yourself by picking Bivol there
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

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    Hill has a better resume than Bivol.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Break down his top 5 wins for me, if you can. ( Hill ). And be careful to note his spilt decisions wins. I check back later.
     
  13. northpaw

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    Ummmmmmmmmm, Virgil Hill is in the HOF :rolleyes:

    Back to the original topic: Virgil wins by decision
     
  14. Mendoza

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    My mistake without checking. Okay so he is. Go over his top 5 wins for me, okay?
     
  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your pathetic because in all truth you really dont know so you just throw out random things.

    1. Bobby Czyz- Former World champion and after his loss to Hill stopped Maynard who at the time was the Qlympic gold medal they were trying to hype. Also won another title at crusierweight.
    2.Frank Tate x2- Former world champion who Hill beat TWICE.
    3. Henry Maske- UNBEATEN and a 6'3 SOUTHPAW in GERMANY.
    4.Fabrice Tiozzo x 2 - Guess who is the only boxer to ever beat Fabrice? Hill. And he fought him in FRANCE the first time.
    5.Crawford Ashley- Pretty good contender. Won the British and European Lightheavyweight titles.
    6 Valery Brudov- 30 -0 and Hill was in his FORTIES in a different weight class and still won.

    You guys come on here and disrespect great fighters for no reason other then the current fighter your hyping is the flavor of the month.
    Canelo fought ONE TIME at lightheavy against a DAMAGED champion before Bivol. Christ Canelo doesnt see ROUND FOUR if he fought a Foster.
    Bob Foster fought nobody?? DICK TIGER ring a bell for you? The only boxer EVER to knock out Tiger and he did it with one punch.
    Know of Eddie Cotton the man who flat out got robbed against Jose Torres for the title? Foster stopped him.
    Mike Quarry? Unbeaten and Foster starched him with a SINGLE punch.
    Foster was thrown to the wolves early in his career and was even fighting world class HEAVYWEIGHTS just for a paycheck. Foster ATE the other Wolves and nobody wanted to tangle with him he hit that hard.
    Early I stated Smith hurt Bivol and that would mean bad things in a fight with Foster. Somebody stated it doesnt work that way. IT DOES WORK that way because if I asked you to name the hardest punchers in the history of the Lightheavyweight Division Smith would not be included but foster would EASILY make that list.Foster BROKE BONES.
     
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