Virgil Hill vs. Dmitry Bivol

What are Bivols top 5 wins??

 

Cobra is sounding super triggered right now.

Tiozzo basically has nothing in his win column except a shot McCallum.

Hill’s only A1 win at 175 is Maske, and he barely won.

Eddie Cotton was totally washed up when he fought Foster.

Mike Quarry had a worse career than Zurdo Ramirez.

 

Hill via clear UD, but if Bivol beats Beterbiev then I'd go with Hill via fairly clear UD.

Beterbiev, despite his record, is extremely overrated. He hits hard and has an excellent engine but doesn't know how to fight very well.

 

Oh I know that, and agree with your top 5 picks by the way.

1) I said we need to see more of Biviol who by the way is better than ALL of his top 5 wins, isn't he?

2 ) Give Bivol more time, he's only 31. Plenty of time for more fights.

I wasn't asking you for his top 5 picks, but let's go with that view for a moment

Hill resume is underwhelming by the standard of an an all time great, not that he did not face better talents, in Hearns, DM, Jones , who all beat him before he got too old. And of course he would get knocked, and beaten some more past his prime.

His win over Maske was via SD as was his win over Tiozzo ( 1st fight )

Now might Bivol prove to be better? Yes I do know how it went down.

 

It was a split decision in MASKES HOMETOWN genius. GERMANY where many have gottn robbed of course they tried to take it from Hill but they couldnt .
Samething with Tiozzo it was in France and if you have even seen the fight you would know Hill dropped him MULTIPLE times.
Hill was in his THIRTIES when he lost to Jones and DM. When he struggled with Vallle I knew he was getting there.

Only 31? Do you realize that is getting OLD for a fighter? You do realize genius that Bivol has not stopped anyone since 2018 right?
And his two best wins were against who? Canelo and Ramirez two fighters that have fought how many times at lightheavy?

You come on here and this fighter has a weak resume and im looking and Bivols is WEAK. Who are his top 5 wins?

 

Dude stop going to boxrec and looking things up. Seriously Cotton was a YEAR from when he beat up Jose Torres when he met Foster.
When Zurdo has 62 wins like Quarry then comeback and talk to me.He was actually pretty good and very tough which cameback to really hurt him latter in life. He beat a couple of pretty good fighters.
Tiozzo could actually fight when he wanted to as evidence when he beat Nate Miller,Lucas, and Branco who were some soild fighters.
Im not triggered just get tired of the Bivol vs Foster in which somehow Bivol with no power is going to outbox a fighter who has a better jab and one punch power and owns the reach and height as well.

 

Cotton lost to Rouse after Torres and retired three months after fighting Foster.

Zurdo enters the ring near 200 pounds and used to be a champion. Jerry’s brother didn’t have those things going for him.

Tiozzo was B list. Good as filler, but suspect as a top win in a long ass reign.

 

Again name Bivols top 5 wins.

 

I thought Cobra33 gave you an excellent breakdown of Hill's best wins. You my friend are being schooled here.

It seems like you are not really familiar with Hill (which does not speak for you), yet you have no issues alleging Bivol the Russian fighter would win.

 

Again I pick who I think will win. You on the other had seem to have an issue with white Eastern Europeans in boxing and are sensitive to them picked over, perhaps beaten by them to the fighters which you root for. You are however free to root for you wish.

I don't actually like all Russian fighters, and be careful of calling anyone form Asia or Eastern Europe " Russian " because the nation has their issues and I leave it at that. It's sort of like calling end Englishmen French or a Scottish's man English. There are years of history, wars and bad blood between them.

Corba stepped in for you, ( I asked your for Hill's the top 5 ) and I think his reply which is beater than yours was good.

 

I'm not going to get into home town decisions except to say that Canelo received favorable judging against Bivol but in the end even they could rob him for an obvious victory. Canelo by the way is a sure fire HOF fighter, which Hill I think didn't beat any.

Tizzo was a chinny man, and Maskes hits like at least a middle which is two weight classes below. Check out the fans scoring the fight below, and by the way Perez who scored the fight for Maske sounds German to me...NOT.

[url]https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/virgil-hill-vs-henry-maske[/url]

I disagree with you strongly with 31 being OLD for a light heavyweight. You are so wrong here. Are you saying anyone over 31 that Hill beat is in decline??? He lost to Hearns a blown up welter who was 32. I could have some fun with this comment but I hope you get the point.

Bivol career has reached the stage where he is getting big fights at 20-0. Its incomplete and only fair to judge to against him at the same amount of fights. Who did Hill beat in his first 20 matches? His top 5 there were? I hope you get that point.

You asked for his current top five, okay here you go.

Bivol top 5 wins to date are thus:

Canelo
Joe Smith
Jean Pascal
Sullivan Barerra
Gilberto Ramirez

I take it you know who they were where they were ranked, and their title shots. Its not bad and like I said Bivol got several big fights ahead of him.

 

Canelo had 1 fight at LH against a washed up champ. Smith and Barrera, I am not even going into that, this is just embarassing. Pascal, average fighter, who as shot to pieces when he fought Bivol. Ramirez is quite decent but if that is the best you can do.

- Maske a long reigning, undefeated, IBF champ and olympic champ. You my friend should be ashamed of yourself.
- Tiozzo was stopped just once in 50 fights. He fought at LH and CW and won titles there. How the hell was he chinny. You are an emberassement to this Forum.

 

The funny thing about this post is that Kovalev would've been Hill's second best win at 175.

 

Who says he would have won? I favor Kursher!

( not to you ) And give it a rest I know Maske was regular champion at light heavy with no power and I was having a bit of fun with Tiozzo's first round KO loss to a puncher like Virgil Hill.

 

Not that wretched version of Kovalev, Canelo faced, he wouldn't have.