Virgil Hill vs. Dmitry Bivol

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  1. Mendoza

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    Yes, he would have if he faced the version of Hill vs say Mormeck. Do I smell a Kovalev vs Hill ahead in the works?
     
  2. THE BLADE 2

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    The washed up version who fought Canelo , no way. Tiozzo and Maske are slightly better wins than even a prime Kovalev in my opinion.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Do you count the flakey judges win for Ward? A fight where he was down, and won 114-113 on all three judges cards, giving Ward the 10 round when he clearly didn't win that one but needed too on their " score cards "

    Kovalev won more rounds, scored a 10-8 round and thew and landed more punches.

    HBO commentator [url]Harold Lederman[/url] scored the bout 116-111 for Kovalev as did 72 % of the media! That's a sign of bad jading!

    [url]https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Andre_Ward_vs._Sergey_Kovalev_(1st_meeting)[/url]

    [url]https://www.proboxing-fans.com/kovalev-vs-ward-punch-stats-favored-krusher-to-nobodys-surprise_112316/[/url]
     
  4. THE BLADE 2

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    I do not remember my score for that one. Ward was surely lucky tp get the win
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Well you should.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

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    I do not. I have made my point that Hill has a better resume than Bivol.
     
  7. NoNeck

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    He had just beaten Yarde and Eleider, both undefeated.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    No, they aren’t. The man almost beat Andre Ward.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

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    And got stopped in the rematch! failed miserably! I would pick Maske over Ward. Tiozzo woudl give Ward all his can handle. Tiozzo would beat the Krusher who can't handle pressure

    And not to mention that this all irrelevant because Canelo did not beat a prime Kovalev
     
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  10. Cobra33

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    Thats it? Jean Pascal is WAY past his prime it isnt even up for debate. Barrera? Everytime he steps up he has LOST. Smith? Come on man Smith is rather limited and his claim to fame is beating a fifty year old boxer. Canelo?? Exactly how many lightheavy weight fights has Canelo WON?

    Could you even imagine Canelo in the ring with a Foster? My god he would get massacred inside of 5 rounds and knocked out.
    Then he asks well what did Hill do in his first 20 fights? How about WIN a title from Stewart who was 26-1 at the time and heres what most people overlook on that performance: Hill was brought in to LOSE to Stewart who had just won the title from Johnson and Hill shocked Stewart.

    Hill has admitted he was overwhelmed in the Hearns fight and didnt let his hands go. Hearns was not close to his prime for that fight. It was Hills first big fight against a legend and he was in awe.
     
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    You do realize that Hill was PAST forty when he fought Mormeck who at the time was a top CRUSERWEIGHT?
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Yes, I was relying to the that Kovelv was past his prime too ( 36 ) when he faced Canelo. I see you skipped my point that age 31 is not past one's prime at light heavyweight I see. Such a view is folly. Besides I wasn't talking to you directly.

    Hill's record when he had 20 fights is less than Bivol's no matter how you spin it! I listed Bivol's top 5 wins to date, thanks for asking.

    I'm thinking of staring a Ward thread, and who the first one between him and Kovalev. Your take on it?
     
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  13. Man_Machine

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    Is he that unproven fella, who lost his British and Commonwealth titles to some unknown, a few fights later?

    If Yarde hadn't fought Kovalev, no one would know who he his.


    Is he that other unproven guy, who had previously stopped Kovalev inside of 7 rounds?


    Wins over Yarde and Eleider don't change anything. Kovalev looked an utter wreck, against Canelo.
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Prime Kovalev beats Hill btw.
     
  15. THE BLADE 2

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    even if true it would be irrelevant.Virgil Hill defeats Canelo and the washed up Kovalev version by UD, now that is relevant.
     
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