False info in this post. A rotator cuff typically tears suddenly and often will recover fully after surgery.
If your older it does not fully recover genius and it never will- how do i know? Because I TORE MINE idiot. Guess you know all about that though right?
it goes right over your head doesnt it? Nobody was blaming any loss on an injury merly pointing out that fighters deal with the wear and tear on their bodies and as you age it becomes harder and easier to not only get injured but recover from it. I broke my hand 6/7 times when i was younger and while it bothered me it healed pretty quick and while never the same I could deal with it. I broke my hand again when I was 35/36 and it took FOREVER to heal and even when healed it gave me alot of problems.to the point for awhile I couldnt even make a fist and punch with it. Hagler was outside of his prime when he faced Leonard. Wars are going to eventually catch up to you and the Hearns and Mugabi fights were pretty brutal and while Marvin was good you could see in the Mugabi fight he was getting hit with punches he would not have earlier in his career. Why do you think Ray took that fight really quick when years before he wouldnt go near it?
I tore my rotator cuff at about the same age Hill did, numb nuts. If you get surgery, it heals. If you don’t, and it’s an incomplete tear, it heals slowly and can get sore from time to time.
I don't see any false information in relation to what leads to a rotator cuff injury, in @Cobra33 's post. While, on occasion, rotator cuff tears can arise from a single injury, it is well known that such injuries most often occur as a result of progressive wear and tear, over time. In general, world class athletic performance and surgery are a bad mix. Again, while full postoperative recoveries are possible and do indeed occur often, it would also be true to say that there is a high risk of an athlete never returning to the level of their pre-injury performance.
If you tear the LIGAMENTS and TENDONS you are screwed and they will tell you that basically. I ended up basically destroying my shoulder and the doctor who was very cool even told me that my shoulder will never be 100% even when the surgery is done. Even now if I work out say too hard my shoulder actually will lose all its strength and sometimes go numb.
Thank you thats what i was trying to say! Hill jabbed and jabbed and he basically tore his shoulder up and it was because of all the training and fighting. Its like your back screw it up once in a bad way and it never is the same even if it doesnt hurt.
Hill didn't tear his rotator cuff, so that might be the issue here. "Hill's camp thought the boxer had a deteriorating rotator cuff, but Sorensen said doctors ruled that out. Hill's clavicle bone is rubbing against another bone in his shoulder joint. The lining in the joint was worn away through continual movement, like throwing jabs, said MIKE NEFF, a physical therapist who worked with Hill." https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/25/sports/sports-people-boxing-hill-to-undergoshoulder-surgery.html Vitali, Pac, and Mayweather all had rotator cuff surgery. Vitali's injury was sudden and really bad, requiring surgery right away. Mayweather and Pac both fought with it and eventually got surgery after aggravating it. All want on to have success. Most rotator cuff injuries are not gonna be complete tears like Cobra's.
Hill tore his rotator cuff trust me. Watch his fights and you notice a difference on how he throws the jab. The lining in the joint basically tears away from either years of overuse or age basically. In Hills case since the left jab was his only offensive weapon he overused it which led to the injury. It all depends how badly you tear the rotator cuff. Haye I think messed his up very badly and Lacy had a pretty serious one.You simply do not have surgery and then its all better you have to go to rehab as well unless it was a minor tear.
Hill didn't have a Lacy type of injury. Nobody had an injury as bad as that. Haye had a bunch of different injuries. He wasn't built to be carry that much weight. I just put a link saying it wasn't a rotator cuff for Hill so I'm gonna stick with that until something else is posted.
The Hearns fight was a short three rounds. Halger had a cut, and was danger of it being stopped. Anyway a great three rounds but I would not go over board in saying Hagler sustained great damage during it. It was a middle weight vs. a man best known for work at welter weight. The middle weight usually wins. Vs Mugabi I say Mugabi was actually out boxing Halger for a while, partly because Hagler gave him too much respect. Mugabi was later proven to be chinny when he stepped up again. Mumbai was no boxer! He as a puncher and one would except Hagler to use his superior reach and jab to dominate the action on the cards. Hagler's eye was nearly closed. Hagler said he doest think he old at 31 by the way. Your can read about it in the excellent SI archives. https://vault.si.com/vault/1986/03/24/ok-now-bring-on-the-next-victim
the Hearns vs Hagler fight is considered to be one of boxings most exciting rounds in the history of the sport and as people point out those two went at it and Hearns is a huge puncher and he landed pretty good. The Hagler fight took all of Mugabi he was never the same fighter after. He was not chinny proir to that. Hagler wasnt even close to his prime and if you compare say the hagler of the Minter bout and Mugabi bout you would see it.Hagler had been a pro for FOURTEEN YEARS when the Leonard bout took place.
