Virgil Hunter responds to Steve Bunce (regarding Andre Ward vs Joe Calzaghe)

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  1. Rumsfeld

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    Thought some of you might find this interview interesting. Excerpt:

    CIANI: Sticking with this Calzaghe-Jones type of scenarios, I’ve seen more threads in boxing message boards about Andre Ward and a prime Joe Calzaghe at 168. I have to ask you, if you were preparing Andre to face the best version of Calzaghe at super middleweight, how confident would you feel in Andre’s ability to beat Joe?

    HUNTER: Very confident! Look, I saw the article I think that Steve Bunce and a couple of pro-Joe Calzaghe fans and acquaintances wrote and you know, “Oh! Now way! No way”! Well I mean, that’s what their supposed to say. They’re fans of Joe. He was their guy. And even Joe said, “He wouldn’t beat me. I would give him angles, I would give him this, and I would give him that”. But the fact of the matter is Joe Calzaghe would have been tailor made for us. There are just certain things that he did that we would have chewed him up, like the bouncing in place. You know we would have threw that completely off. Also the fact that he made that he was too strong. That was really ludicrous. He would have got manhandled all over the ring. Joe Calzaghe hasn’t fought one fight against anybody to give an indication that he could manhandle anybody. But I still give him his due as a great boxer. You can’t take away what he did in his time and era. But as far as him beating Andre Ward, in my mind, and I believe that I’m all the way correct, he would have a problem. We would chew him up. We would chew him up, and that’s just a fact.

    Roy Jones? Listen, Roy Jones is Andre Ward’s idol, but I don’t have to speak for Roy because Roy said it himself. He was asked a question, “Who would have been your most difficult fight in your prime?”

    And he said, “Andre Ward”.

    So that speaks for itself. So we’re not going to go there with Roy, because he already spoke on it. He said, “That would have been my most difficult opponent”, so Roy knows.

    Look Joe had a lot of problems with Bernard, and you know a lot of people say we’re a Bernard Hopkins clone and things like that. There are a lot of attributes that Bernard had that we admire, and there are the cerebral aspects of it, and some of the technical things that he does, and he gave Joe a very difficult time. And Joe never wiped out a division. He waited. Some of his name fights, the fighters were past their prime! And when he had an opportunity to fight the best, he didn’t fight the best. He stayed over there in England and he fought who was comfortable for him. Saying that, look! I admire Joe Calzaghe. I’m a Joe Calzaghe fan, and Joe Calzaghe was a dominant champion in his era. But as far as my personal opinion, and I think that I’m entitled to have my personal opinion like Steve Bunce or anybody else who’s a Joe Calzaghe fan—in my opinion we would have chewed him up!










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  2. Earl-hickey

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    "he stayed over there in england"

    say's it all really doesn't it "Virgil"

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  3. Uncle Rico

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    I agree with him.
     
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  4. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So do I
     
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  5. Bill C84

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    I agree also.
     
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  6. Nipple

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    "He stayed over there in England and he fought who was comfortable for him."

    Mind = Blown.
     
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  7. Earl-hickey

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    You agree Calzaghe would have been "chewed up" "manhandled all over the ring"

    Do you also believe that Virgil "is a Joe Calzaghe fan"

    Mind you, you ARE the same crew who said Dawson would beat Calzaghe black and blue, and that Sillakh would beat Pascal easy.

    Buncey left this forum because of you lunatics.

    each to their own though I guess
     
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  8. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I believe Ward would close the distance enough and get inside Calzaghe and work him over for 12. Wouldnt stop him though.

    Who said anything about Dawson or Sillakh?
     
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  9. mishima

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    he is right
    Vrigil Hunter speaks the truth
     
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  10. Will

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    Ward was flagging in the Froch fight.

    Joe would have set a pave that ward would not have been able to handle.

    Would he have caught joe? Absolutely.

    Would joe have landed more? Absolutely.

    I think Ward may have gone the 12 but would have been taking a real beating from 9 onwards. There is a strong chance the towel would have come in or the ref stops it.

    Virgil says that Joe is taylor made for Ward. As usual with these things you can switch it round and say that Ward is made for Joe.

    His feet are no-where near as good as Joe's and nor is his handspeed as good. I would say accuracy wise he is on a par.

    Makes me laugh when he says how Joe stayd at home an faught comfotable opponents.

    It may be true but then he could equally be talking about his man. Only recently has the competition levels stepped up and they have still had the advantages in almost every fight with regards to hometown etc.
     
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  11. Earl-hickey

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    I love that argument when it gets brought up in discussions of mobile fighters vs Ward.

    "he would get inside"

    Like it's that easy.

    Well, he did "get inside" on those legends of the fleet of foot, Abraham Kessler and Froch

    Oh yeah... ALL those guys are PLODDERS

    and don't talk to me about Straight lines Dawson, who by the way was putting it on ward before he got headbutted and QUIT. AGAIN
     
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  12. Earl-hickey

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    But, But "he would have come inside"

    By teleportation i assume because he sure as hell isn't matching Joe for mobility and footspeed

    but, "he will come inside"
     
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  13. Will

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    Its total bollocks.

    I struggle to think of one single thing that Ward does better than Joe.

    Maybe the billygoat.
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    Roy Jones would've annihilated Ward.

    Virgil Hunter is an imbecile if he thinks otherwise. Rummy, tell him that from me.

    Calzaghe is a different matter.
     
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  15. Bill C84

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    Why's Chad Dawson been brought up? No one mentioned him?
     
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