Virgil Hunter responds to Steve Bunce (regarding Andre Ward vs Joe Calzaghe)

See This version of Hopkins:

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Take everyone out of his record except from bums.

Then put him in with faded Kessler, Allen Green, Arthur Abraham and Carl Froch

THE MAN IS UNBEATABLE, CALZAGHE WOULD GET TAKEN APART

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Oh and before you try it, Dawson wasn't weight drained against Hopkins and hopkins was passsed it

 

You love it? Sakio Bika did a pretty good job getting inside and roughing Calzaghe, you dont think Ward could? 'Getting inside' means closing the distance (Joe liked to have mid range) by feinting with a jab, stepping to Calzaghes right, pivoting and putting his lead foot inside Calzaghes then going to work. He would have beaten Joe on the inside fight, theres no doubt about that. Not 'easy' against a good fighter like Calzaghe but certainly possible for someone as good as Ward.

You think Dawson was 'putting it on Ward' ?

 

Good points until the last one. Chad wasn't putting it on Ward at all, he was abysmal.

 

maybe carried away.

but see my last post, the hopkins one.

opinion?

 

Earl Hickey amazing the forum with his 'informed' opinion on boxing

Explain how you think the fight would have gone, from a technical standpoint, rather than just rubbising peoples OPINIONS whilst offering abosolutely nothing apart from rejecting theirs.

 

pathmanc1986 is right; Bika made it messy. Bika hits harder and probably has the better chin, but Ward is quicker and more well rounded.

Earl, your point about B-Hop made no sense to me, explain it in more simple terms and I will try to understand it, cheers :good

 

By the way, other than a clinch heavy game I don't think B-Hop and Ward have many stylistic similarities at all.

 

i'm saying that Hopkins would have beaten Kessler, Green, Froch and Abraham AS convincingly as Ward, if not worse.

he'd even do it now.

But he lost to Taylor twice and Calzaghe. Who are totally different styles to those three.

Ward hasn't fought the variety for anyone to pick him to beat a fighter of Joe's style with any confidence

you can say "i think he'd beat him" but you can't base that on any in ring performance so far.

 

LOL at him criticising Joe for staying at home, How many times has Ward fought outside of Oakland, never mind America?

 

Ward arguably has a better engine than B-Hop possesed by the time Joe fought him. Okay, he needed to take a round off against Froch (the last one) so there's no reason to think he has better stamina than Joe, but he also wouldn't need to fall over.

And the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight was so ridiculously close it's unreal. Not like Calzaghe looked anything other than sloppy or amateurish himself in that one.

Calzaghe had such an unorthodox style it's hard to imagine many modern fighters in with him.

Jones would waste Ward and Calzaghe prime for prime, if he felt the need to. He could treat 'em both like Bryant Brannon, that's how much better he was.

 

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I don't like Virgil Hunter. He has what, one fighter? With a painful amateurish style?

He can go **** himself.

 

I 100% agree on Jones.

But as I say, in Ward's wildest dreams, you couldn't have picked a better run through the super 6 for him.

Jermain Taylor
Glen Johnson
Andre Dirrell

i'd favour him to beat those guys as they were either old, brain damaged or had a missing brain, but still it would have been a completley different stylistic challange, and Ward may have come unstuck.

who knows.

For now, Calzaghe beats him for me. When i see him "school" someone who even remotley approximates Joes style, i'll reconsider

 

That's my point, you won't.

The three above bring nothing to the table. Johnson is tough and experienced but not too difficult to beat. Taylor and Dirrell have quick hands and that's it, they're both crap with some horrific deficiencies.

 

168-175 is devoid of elite boxers outside of Ward so i expect he will continue to look amazing against one dimensional plodders and the nuthugging to continue.

i'm serious, he beats a massivley blown up martinez and then Tavoris cloud and people on here will start talking G.O.A.T

 

Its nuthugging to believe hes a good fighter?

8 pounds on Martinez isnt that much to add on