Virgil Hunter

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rayrobinson, Mar 9, 2014.


  1. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Firstly when I hear any of his interviews I think he is a first class guy and has forgotten more about boxing than 99% of us know.

    However when it comes to training , I think he can only work in one way.

    Not everybody is Andre Ward , but Khan Angulo and Berto are all being taught in the same way ; Slow down use your intelligence etc etc.

    Khan - A really poor level of IQ , its not going to change at the age of 27 and his only real attribute is speed, therefore you need to use that speed , not slow him down.

    Angulo - Never ever will he be a boxer , however he can fight , use his best tools.

    Berto - Never going to have the best defense , so don't train him like Ward.


    Hunter is very similar to the Mayweathers , give a kid at 8 years old and he can develop something really special , give him a boxer at 25 and he doesn't improve them in the slightest.

    thought?
     
  2. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    mayweather sr has had other world champions, but great points otherwise
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I disagree with that but you are kinda point on.

    And look at what he has been given. Khan and Angulo both lost by KO and Berto took the worst beating of his career. Damaged goods.
     
  4. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What do you mean given? It's his choice to take em on.
     
  5. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    you cant just take a mature fighter from someone else and expect to change them.. it takes A **** LOAD OF TIME. and id imagine alot of chemistry
     
  6. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought Angulo's best fight ever was against Lara, and Virgil was training him then.
     
  7. Redman

    Redman Active Member Full Member

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    It's all about levels, Angulo is simply a couple of levels below Canelo. Doesn't matter who was in the corner, pretty much the same can be said about Canelo when he fought Floyd.
     
  8. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice post man.

    Honestly what he's done to Khan is basically counterproductive for his style. He's forcing him to "slow" things down and become a more cerebral fighter inside the ring. That's not how Khan became successful in the first place; rather, it was relying on his athleticism, instincts and reflexes inside the ring that made him a champion.

    That's also the reason why he looked so awful against Julio Diaz. Khan needs to fight in the same manner he did while ascending up the pro ranks- utilize his jab, footwork, combination punching, etc. He's a bit of an idiotic fighter in the sense that when he gets tagged, he gets too excited and decides to stand too long in the pocket and try to trade with his opponent. That's not a winning formula for any boxer, especially one who's known to have a suspicious chin.

    I think if Khan fought in his natural manner, he'd do OK against Floyd. But the style that Virgil is trying to instil in him would actually hurt him more than help him against Mayweather.

    And as far as Angulo, I like the guy, but he's nothing more than a guy who's just a slight level above a gatekeeper. He looked great against Lara because Lara fought quite possibly the worst type of fight he could against a flat-footed, forward-first type of fighter. Lara didn't utilize the entire ring like he should've and there's no excuse for that given how technically sound and gifted Lara is.
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    like who?
     
  10. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He trained DLH for quite some time. Also trained Hatton.
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    they were already champions by then, DLH was champion at 4 weights by then
     
  12. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    he trained chad dawson as well as the guys other posters mentioned above
     
  13. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    tell me some trainers that have trained numerous fighters that went on to become world champions
     
  14. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't understand the context of how the question was given. I don't think sr. trained anyone from the amateur ranks aside from his own son.

    But it's conventional for promising, upcoming fighters to change their trainers once they get to the big stage/title fights.
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    obviously you havent much boxing knowledge for whatever reason by throwing out statements like Mayweather Sr is known for some great trainer of multiple world champions when in reality he only trained JR and he didnt do that half the time. obviously you are fishing for info because you really have no idea, but to answer your question
    emanuel steward has probably trained the most fighters from amateur or no no pro expierence to world champions, about 7-10 guys. but im sure you only know him as the guy who trained klitschko