Vitali an ATG heavyweight? I don't think so

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I think alot of vitali fans are getting carried away with this victory. while impressive and historical in some ways, this certainly did not launch vitali into ATG top 10 heavyweight status. I believe Wladimir Klitschko is vastly superior to his brother in nearly every department, and has beaten better comp too...but I dont hear anyone claiming wlad is an ATG.



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    Sorry Vitali just does not belong next to these legends of the fight game
     
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  2. sitiyzal

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  3. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    It really depends how you look at it...ATG how?

    Does he make the top ten HW's ever? No. Few would argue that. Neither does Wlad, although I think Wlad has a case potentially for top 15. Vitali probably has a case for top 20 right now. They fare well in head to head matchups, but I dont think either has a resume to be top 10...Wlad comes closer, though.

    That being said, they are both excellent fighters.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    top 20 for sure...and Vitali is not done yet!

    SuzieQ, you need to chill out.
     
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  5. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Head to Head, Vitali is one tough mother****er to deal with
     
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  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :rofl @ the rankings in this thread. Top 15? You guys really need to get a clue.
     
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  7. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko might not have the resume for some people (although I would disagree with that), but when healthy, I would take him over any other heavyweight 1 on 1 in history...His skills/talent is that good IMO.
     
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  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Langford, Marciano, Tyson, and Frazier were all shorter than Dempsey and they all make your list numbnuts. Liston wasn't any taller either. Know what you're talking about before posting.
     
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  9. Sweet Pea

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  10. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    9 stone? Dempsey weighed between 180-200 pounds, which would make him roughly 11-12 stone. Once again, know what you're talking about before posting and making an ass of yourself. And once again, why did you rate the other fighters I mentioned above Klitschko, considering they were all smaller than Dempsey?
     
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  11. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone who ranks any Klit in the top 20 ATG is a ****ing moron.
     
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  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Actually 13-14 1/2 mate
     
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  13. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    marciano > vitali

    dont even compare the two. rocky did more in his time, and had 7 world title wins and that is UNDISPUTED not just one POS garbage wbc belt

    vitali and wlad can make their marks but to call tham ATG in the top 15 already is ****ing absurd
     
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  14. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its hard to judge really. His resume isn't great but with his size, strength, power and chin he would give most fighters of any generation problems and decent hard fought fight even if he ended up losing.

    I think the only thing you can say about him with any certainty is that his h2h ATG ranking is much higher than his resume ATG ranking.
     
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  15. chuffy

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    I think it's slightly more. About 12.9 - 14.3...
     
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