Vitali an ATG??

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  1. tezel8764

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    Result= getting Knocked Out later.
     
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    Please dont compare a Kick with a punch you "expert".
     
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  4. itsmeagain1

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    ans - no he isnt. that is all
     
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  5. SP_Mauler

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    He went 8 with a Lennox who was in the best shape of his life. Vitali went 6 with a Lennox who barely bothered to train. Beside Mike took multiple shots from Lewis like it was nothing while Vitali hanged on for dear life and Lennox was too tired to finish it
     
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    I consider an All Time-Great to be someone who is in the Top Ten Heavyweights of all time. Do I consider Vitali to be a Top 10 Heavyweight? No.

    Vitali has been tested once at the highest level and he lost on a TKO. Should this define his whole career? His stats are impressive but post-First Retirement his opponents have been dull. IMO his retirement ****ed up his career from an historical point of view.

    Vitali is an elite level Heavyweight but not an ATG. His brother through is a different story, has the right to be called the man of this era.

    Although on H2H Ability he ranks highly, I don't really consider that to be a measuring stick in reality.
     
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  7. LikeFatherNSon

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    Hes not even a HOF'er.
     
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  8. Berliner

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    Why make excuses? He got Knocked the **** out with no chance of winning the fight. Also it was not the first time he was Knocked out cold.
    The myth that Tyson had a super Iron Chin is a lie.
     
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    Dempsey, Tunney, J.Sharkey, Schmeling, Baer, Louis, Walcott, Charles, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, W.Klitschko

    There are 20 heavy's off the top of my head I would rank above Vitali, and I don't even know enough about guys like Harry Wills, Sam Langford, Jack Johnson, James J. Jeffries to include them, though I'm sure they would figure above too.
     
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    He didn't get KTFO, He literally gave up mentally just looking for a way out.
     
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    Who's making excuses? It's the truth beside Tyson was wayy wayy past it and still did better then a prime Vitali.
     
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    OK, so you don't like him or his skills. You pointing out his weaknesses does seem to somehow make you better and more important in my mind. Yes, you are extraordinary.
     
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  14. Berliner

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    Ah Ok...
     
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    Yes, Vitali is an all-time great.
     
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