Vitali-AT LEAST in the top 3 highest KO percentages in history for a heavyweight.

List VITLAYS competition and anyone with any knowledge could name you probably 20 other guys that would have knocked them all out.

The most important statistic about VITLAY is that he lost to the only 2 decent fighters he faced. Byrd was 'decent' and the version of Lewis that he faced was nothing special either.

 

You cannot discredit a man for losing a fight by a cut.

HE didn't win but you cant say he lost it again lennox.


No one knows what would of happened in the 7th round. But to discredit a fighter by a cut is stupid.

 

Look, his competition wasnt exactly fantastic, but:

Kirk Johnson, Corey Sanders, Larry Donald are decent fighters, by most people's definition of decent.

 

Dick!

Kirk Johnson & Corrie Sanders were **** by your standards? The same Kirk Johnson That KO'd Maskaev easily, y'know, the current WBC Heavyweight champion?

The same Sanders that knocked down Rahman & KO'd Wladimir? Sanders doesn't hit hard enough for you? He has no skills whatsoever in your opinion?

Crack kills dude...........................:rofl

 

Herbie Hide is also a good boxer but Vitali KO'd him so I guess Herbie just flat out sucks because he lost to Vitali right Fightweight............?

Is that the only measuring stick you use to judge fighters? How well they did against a Klitschko?

Larry Donald is also a good boxer with a solid chin but VitKlit Ko'd his ass didn't he? Something that Valuev couldn't do, and Donald beat Holyfield didn't he?

 

Not **** but hardly difficult to KO either are they? In almost every 'glass jaw' thread on here I see Rahmans name cropping up so that pretty much takes him out of the argument. Sanders at the age VITLAY fought him at was nothing more than a token opponent, who was only rated because he KO'd WALD. Maskaev wasn't even a player when Lewis was champ but all of a sudden he wins a paper belt in his late 30's and he becomes great?? :nut :nut :nut

VITLAYS percentage looks impressive but in reality it's all smoke and mirrors. Every time he faced adversity in a fight he lost.

 

The fact is Vitali was winning both fights that he lost at the time of the stoppages. he had a serious rotator cuff injury vs. Byrd & the ref stopped the fight vs. Lewis because of cuts.......................

Let the record speak for itself :deal

 

Oh **** :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Dragging in Valuev (who is a bum in every sense of the word) and old Holyfield into your argument just stinks of desperation.

As for Hide, he was given excessive vaseline before the VITLAY fight, and he was ahead on all the cards at the time of the weak stoppage - that tells you all you need to know about that fiasco.

 

For the record Johnson would've been a good win if he bothered showing up in something resembling shape, to quote Larry Merchant, "He harpooned that whale!"

 

......and those losses were legit losses IMO. Both Byrd & Lewis won since the injuries occured during the course of the fight. However it must be noted that Vitali was beating both to the punch, which isn't easy against either. That shows heart, boxing skill, speed & confidence that I personally admire in any boxer.

So What's your ****in' problem with Vitali? Not the proper nationality?

I have a serious question for you:

If Vitali comes back & beats McCline, the winner of Maskaev vs.Peter & then McCall or whomever else they line up how will you rate him in the top 10 current HW list?

 

Oh come on, as if the fight vs. Johnson lasted long enough for stamina or "fightingshape" to play a part whatsoever. You can do better than that can't you?

Besides, since when is it the opposing fighter's responsibility to make sure the other fight arrives in fighting shape?

Don't even say that Kirk didn't try, everyone who watched that fight saw Kirk swinging for the KO and Vitali took a few & avoided a few to beat Kirk into submission didn't he?

 

First of all I'd say if you're 6 feet 8 inches tall and any kind of fighter then you should beat Byrd to the punch without too many problems.

The problem I have with VITLAY fans is that they talk as though VITLAY was totally owning Lewis when they fought and that clearly wasn't the case, it was a pretty even fight going into the 7th. I also have problems with the VITLAY fans claiming that this makes their guy a great fighter - it doesnt. No more than beating Holmes at 38 makes Tyson a great fighter....although Tyson is a great fighter, but for far more important reasons than the Holmes win. The thing is VITLAY had a champ there that was there for the taking and he still lost, how he lost is absolutely irrelevent - he allowed an ageing, rusty guy to bust his skull up to the point where he couldn't continue, end of argument.

If VITLAY comes back and does all you say then yes he'll be number 1 or 2 (depending on what WALD does) but that still doesn't erase what happened before.....VITLAY was in his prime against Lewis and Byrd and lost. The reasons for the losses are well documented but excuses are like assholes and all that....

 

Now if Vitali vs. Kirk would've gone at least 5 rounds or so you would've had a point.........................

But it didn't.

BTW, who has kicked the **** outta Johnson that badly before or after he fought Vitali?

How about Sanders? At least the fight vs. Corrie went on long enough to let stamina play a role..................


Man, you guys make this way too easy.

 

True, in the same way it wasn't Lewis's fault that VITLAY has paper skin, or Sandersfault that WALDO has a glass chin, or Brewsters fault that WALDO had been poisoned :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl or Byrds fault that VITLAYS arm got sore....

See where I'm going here?