Vitali-AT LEAST in the top 3 highest KO percentages in history for a heavyweight.

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  1. jopez707

    jopez707 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    V. Klitschko had a lot of potential, he just never lived up to it. He didnt fight enough of the top guys, wins against an old Corrie Sanders and a fat Kirk Johnson just dont cut it. If V. Klitschko can come back and beat Peter and or Chagaev he will get a lot more respect.
     
  2. Tencount85

    Tencount85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like Vitali a lot but I admit a lot of those KO's on his record are against part-time Janitor equivalent type fighters...shitty. I hope if he does indeed return he can maybe beat up Chagaev and possibly Peter so he can be "credible".
     
  3. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He lost, that is all we know.

    But I personally know that Lewis would have finished him on the very next round.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is that the same Hide he KO'd in round 2?
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yo know that personally.

    Good for you Mr. Psychic.

    Lewis himself did not share your confidence.

    He stated he would give Vitali a rematch ($20m purse was mentioned).

    He thought about it for over a year and then wisely decided to preserve his legacy and retire as champ.

    BTW:
    Would you happen to know (personally, of course) who's going to win the next Kentucky Derby? I have a few dollars to bet and with your prescience, I could profit here.
     
  6. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis would have koed Vitali damnit. Watch the damn fight ffs.
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    First, Nobody was owned in the fight. It was close, with an edge for Vitali.

    Second, the oldest-ever-Lennoxthing doesn't wash. Lennox from 10 years earlier would have had a much harder night. Lennox was prime 1999 to 2003, a late bloomer.

    Lennox won the sixth round and so was on the ascendancy?

    Herbie Hide won a round against Vitali and was knocked into kingdom come in the next round.

    Vitali ended Lennox's career.

    A prime Lennox would beat a prime Vitali (I have prime Lennox and Big George tied for 3/4 on my alltime list).

    But that night was the end of Lennox's prime career and from that point till he retired, Vitali was the top dog.

    He never lived up to his promise. He was injury-plagued, and had competed lots in kick-boxing in his younger days, all of which left unfulfilled potential in his boxing career.
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good detailed response to the points,PATSYS.

    I watched it live and several times since.

    What would have happened in the second half is unknown and UNKNOWABLE, even to a genius like yourself.

    I believe Lennox dodged a bullet.

    I believe that Lennox KNEW that too, hence, no rematch.
     
  9. DonPrestige

    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    Well firstly I def wouldnt call Lennox a great. A skilled and clever boxer who dominated an extremely weak, over the hill and limited division. But hey you cant blame Lewis for that and he was the last hw to unify so he gets my credit. However, you cant criticise Vitali for getting beat coz of a cut. He was ahead on the cards in my opinion and Lewis knew this which wa why he retired after that and didnt give vitali a rematch.
     
  10. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's 0-2 with 0 KOs against the two best guys he fought. That's what matters more.
     
  11. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    I don't either.

    Do you think YOU are something special?
     
  12. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi deserves more praise than Vitali, atleast he shared the ring with a fighter of prime Tuas quality (on what was said to be his greatest night) and managed to pull out the win.
     
  13. Drexl

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    He was Very active throughout his prime fighting 2-3 times a year.

    He was CLEARLY no loncer interested and CLEARLY in the worsy shape of his career. And I hope you aren't trying to say he wasn't the oldest he had ever been.... :yep


    Are you telling me you can't understand the difference between someone having a good first round, and someone who struggled early turning things around mid-way through a fight?

    Whatever. Even if you don't agree that he ws gaining momentum, the fact is the fight was stopped because Vitali couldn't continue therefore the scorecards become insignificant.

    So..... age, and the fact that he was a multi-millionaire who had achieved all of his career goals before Vitali's name was even mentioned as a possible opponent had nothing to do with it?

    :roll:

    If he was in his early 30's and just hitting his prime, THEN you could say Vitali ended his career. (Kind of like how Danny Williams ended Vitali's career.... :yep)

    But that wasn't the case with Lennox.
     
  14. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    And at least Ike managed to get past "Killer" Chris Byrd. :yep
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    So I take it you apply the same logic to Vitali being ahead against Lennox?


    :good