Vitali-AT LEAST in the top 3 highest KO percentages in history for a heavyweight.

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  1. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm probably biased because I like Wlad a lot (primarily because he reminds me of Frank Bruno) but I wouldn't compare him with Vitali. Wlad's wins over Sam Peter, Chris Byrd, Calvin Brock and soon against Lamon Brewster show that, while unreliable, he CAN produce wins at the top level.

    Wlad is also much more technically sound than Vitali.
     
  2. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You "read" something that isn't true then.

    Lewis was training to fight Kirk Johnson, a match he was expected to cruise through. Lewis being an arrogant SOB refused to learn from the Rahman fight, and again under prepared for it.

    Even Vitlay knew this, and his quotes about Lewis being heavy and showing a lack of condition have been well documented on millions of (pre crash) threads here. Vitlays plan was to have the fight go late because of it.

    What it shows to me is that Vitlay and his corner simply couldn't adjust after the cut, as it was obvious the fight was going to be stopped soon. I'm surprised it went that long.

    If the roles were reversed, and Lewis/Steward knew they had 2, 3 rounds at the most to get a guy out of there, I think they would have handled it better.

    As it was, it was OBVIOUS that Lewis had zero interest in the scorecards, he knew it was going to be a stoppage one way or the other. He just made sure it was in his favour.

    Vitlay was still fighting as though points mattered. Lewis wasn't.
     
  3. Mr "T"

    Mr "T" Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are out of whack! No way you will listen to reason.
     
  4. Mr "T"

    Mr "T" Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You guys are s...ooo..oo predicable. Please say something different.
     
  5. Shamrock

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    Lewis didn't forecast that cut! It was a fluke which he wasn't prepared to risk in a rematch! Lewis was very very lucky that cut occured, he knew that and avoided the rematch. He retired at 38, Holyfield is still knocking em over at 43. :hi:
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Great example with Holyfield Shammy. He's REALLY knocking em over huh?:lol:
     
  7. Shamrock

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    That avatar pic seems like you havn't got everything on your chosen location Lance :lol:
     
  8. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't say he did, did I?

    I said he adapted to something that happened, and changed his plan.

    Vitlay didn't.

    Who knows how Lewis would have fought after Round 3 if the cut didn't happen. Thing is, it did.

    He, and everybody watching the fight APART from Vitlay and his corner, knew it wasn't going to points. So why fight like it was?

    This fact makes the scorecards totally and completely irrelevant.
     
  9. C Money

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    Vitaly isnt the best Klitschko and I cant believe the guy is getting as much hype as he does from some.V. Klitschko isnt very skilled and got by on size with mostly overmatched and out of shape opponents. He did have the better CHIN and perhaps heart of the brothers. That's about the kindest praise I can give him from a boxing perspective.

    As for Lewis, Lennox was half focused, conditioned, and FILMED a movie in the run up to the fight, AND STILL WON:good
     
  10. Drexl

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    Holyfield and Golota both had shoulder injuries after fighting Byrd. Golota's wasonly a minor recurrance of an old injury, but Holy's was serious enough to require surgery.
     
  11. Drexl

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    Are you going to actually debate the points I made, or just disagree without backing it up? :blood
     
  12. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Please say something intelligent. :blood
     
  13. Drexl

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    Yep. He saw a weakness and took advantage.

    It's called experience & tactical intelligence. Something Vitali lacks (along with victories over elite opposition.)
     
  14. Drexl

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    :lol:

    Yeah.... Maddalone, Oquendo, Savarese and Jeremy Bates

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:


    He may be beating scrubs at 43 but he was losing to Donald, Toney & Byrd at 40/41. :yep
     
  15. Drexl

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    Hmmm.... still no reply I see. :think :yep

    So I guess by your reasoning, if a fighter throws a body-shot hoping to bring his opponents guard down & set up a head-shot but happens to break his opponents rib and scores a TKO win.... that win is not legit?

    :lol: