You are right Vitali vs. Haye would be great. But can you stop talking the same **** over and over, Wlad is too cautious? Do you see Wlad vs. Thompson II? And Wlad vs. Haye was an excellent tacital fight from both!!! Haye´s defence was great, he is fast, very fast and he knows to provocate but Wlad did not make mistaks. Two fighters with brain fought each other and the better and fast won, Wladimir. Against Vitali Haye has a better chance because provocation works well against Vitali and Vitali is not unbeatable. Vitali does not punches as hard as Wlad so Haye can take more risk. Against Wlad you cannot take risk than he will knocks you out. I mean the Wlad today, and no Sanders **** please, this was in 2003. You cannot compare Wlad from 2003 to the Wlad of today. Wlad take a big "hayemaker" in the 12th round and he knows how to react well. Wlad vs. Haye was an excitede and very good tactical fight.
Manny is unbeaten. Haye has lost twice, once to weaker opposition (maybe twice to weaker opposition according to you). By your criteria for ATG rankings Charr (0 losses) probably ranks higher than Haye (2 losses to inferior opposition) and for that matter Wlad (3 losses to inferior opposition). None have beaten a prime ATG so, for you, Charr must rank highest
:yep:yep:yep When Charr knocks the living daylights out of Vitali that'll just be the icing on his 0 resume.
Haye v Vitali Firstly would be one of the biggest fights in boxing, secondly I believe it would be v.competitive and exciting, could see both fighters getting dropped with Haye scraping the win. Haye is the biggest draw at heavyweight and although he was disappointed in wlad fight he hits HARD a 90% KO record confirms this. Heavyweight boxing needs this fight after Vitali dispatches of charr I fully expect Vitali Haye to happen next year and could go down as one if the best heavyweight battles ever.
This kind of makes sense. Maybe they've even asked (or paid Vitali) to coast, and make it a good show.
This also has some merit. HBO is probably targeting the casual viewer (which is where the money is.) All those people know is that Charr is undefeated. HBO's promotional team will go into overdrive, and make it look like Charr steamrolled over a bunch of top opponents. Then, Vitali carries him for 7-8 rounds, before destroying him in brutal fashion. This will be high drama for those that DKSAB.
He is what 41 years old now and you guys are bashing him for still fighting???? How about you fighting a professional boxer 10 years younger than you at that age. Haye is all mouth, everyone trashed him after his loss to Wald and now they are back on his nutsack after a win over a fighter who lost his last 3 in a row? LOL
LOL at Haye being biggest draw. Nobody in the world knows who he is outside of England. Guy wouldn't sell out a YMCA gym in DC.
I don't understand why Nosbor gets away with being blatantly racist. How many times has he used the name "Chimpsora"? He's a *****. Someone mentioned in another thread that he's a grown man, about 40 or something like that. If that's true, it's astounding. The guys a bigoted moron.
Well, that's his life - comes on a boxing forum and tries to bait people into arguing about race with him. I bet he leads such a fulfilling life.