Vitali Greatest Puncher Ever At Heavyweight!!!!!!!

I havent taken the WBC serously as of late, and now I may never.

 

Man that';s a lot of hate in one post! I bet you're pretty pissed that the KLitschkos keep winning....................good.

 

It's all true thats the point :roll:

 

Sure, sure..............

 

I don't agree with the original poster, but one comment:

I don't think the 'who he never dropped' argument makes sense for TKOs. If the ref stops a fight (or corner throws in the towel or the fighter quits), then it often prevents an actual KO.

e.g. If Peter continued he most likely would have gotten dropped. Same with Sanders

It's not always true - e.g. in the case of Byrd/Vitali, some argue that Vitali should have just toughed it out for the remaining rounds (as if the guy claiming this could cope in that situation).

If Lewis/Vitali was allowed to continue, depending on what you want to believe, Vitali could have gone on to drop/stun Lewis and get a referee stoppage win, or Vitali could have been (T)KO'd later in the fight or he could have been blinded and quit/forced to stop.

 

By the WBC but the IBF, WBO, WBA never said he was the greatest puncher ever because he likes that belt. A prime Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, Foreman, even Holyfield, Moore, and Mercer stops Gomez within five or six rounds.

 

I know!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl He's a great puncher but P4P best! LMAO

 

dont forget Edwin Valero's got a 100% knockout rate

Vitali is somethin like 97%

 

So did Joe Louis and Muhamad Ali and Mike Tyson.

In fact every great boxer has.

Vitali's lack of status in the ATG rankings has nothing to do with having fought a lot of bums.

It's more to do with a lack of great names on his resume.


And to some degree, you have to play the cards you're dealt.

 

So what? Do you think Vitali (who will be 38 in 4 months) is prime?

 

Part of this is due to his caution and maintenance of balance.

I have never seen him throw his best sunday punch. I'd be surprised if he's ever thrown at more than around 60 %.

He doesn't like to be out of position and with the power he has, he doesn't need to be.

He generally knows that with fifty or sixty of his cautiously thrown, half assed punches, he's going to get you out of there.

 

True

And a prime Vitali stops Gomez in one, maybe two.

 

Really thats why in his prime he never did anything like that :roll::roll:

 

Interesting article by Dan Rafael regarding the all-knowing and mighty WBC, the same organization that declares Vitali the hardest punching, greatest fighter of all time.



"We won't even get into the fact that the WBC has positioned Oleg Maskaev as the mandatory heavyweight challenger for Vitali Klitschko, even though Maskaev was knocked out by Samuel Peter a year ago to lose the title, and since then has earned nothing but a pair of inconsequential wins against guys who wouldn't rank in the top 50.



Today, let's simply take a look at the junior middleweight division, where the WBC has created such nonsensical rankings that upon first look you might think they were just a mistake. Sadly, they aren't.



Vernon Forrest holds the title and Sergio Martinez holds the interim belt, yet the organization has allowed them both to keep fighting others without taking a stand and ordering a direct fight between them. Put that aside for a moment, though, and scroll through the top 10. I can barely get past the top three because they're so horrendous.



No. 1 is Alfredo Angulo. He is one of my favorite prospects and an absolute delight to watch because of his all-action style. But he has yet to fight anyone of serious quality, so to rank him as the No. 1 contender at 154 pounds is simply a joke. Unfortunately, it's not as cruel a joke as the next two so-called contenders.



No. 2 is Ricardo Mayorga, a former titleholder who pulled out of a February HBO bout against Angulo at the last minute, screwing up the card and disappointing a lot of people. But that isn't even the point. Get this: The WBC ranks Mayorga second in the world (I don't have him in the top 10), even though he hasn't won a fight at 154 pounds since a 2005 decision against Michele Piccirillo.



Since that fight four years ago, Mayorga has fought only three times. In those bouts, he is 1-2. He was thrashed and knocked out by Oscar De La Hoya in May 2006, won a decision in a super middleweight fight against the totally shot Fernando Vargas in November 2007, then got drilled by Shane Mosley in September. For these accomplishments, Mayorga deserves the No. 2 rank in the world? Maybe in Bizarro World.



No. 3 is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., which is one of the single worst rankings I have ever seen. In any division. In any organization. Ever.



This is clearly just the Mexico-based WBC sucking up to Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., the kid's father and one of the all-time Mexican greats, who held various WBC titles during his career.



To rank Chavez Jr. third in the world is an insult to anyone who believes rankings should be fair. Chavez shouldn't rank in the top 20, and that's being generous.



Chavez Jr. is undefeated, but he has faced nobody of remote quality in his career. Even his own handlers at Top Rank admit to pushing him extraordinarily slowly because he generates enormous money despite his limitations as a fighter. That's fine. Chavez headlines a Top Rank pay-per-view card Saturday night from Tijuana, Mexico, against the thoroughly obscure Luciano Cuello. It's a card that could be pretty entertaining, but those who are going to buy it will do so because they enjoy watching Chavez fight or because they are interested in undercard bouts involving Fernando Montiel, Humberto Soto and Antonio Diaz.



Nobody -- and I repeat, nobody -- is going to buy the pay-per-view because they believe Chavez is the second coming of his father or will be facing a dangerous, world-class opponent.



Well, nobody except maybe the WBC."

 

ever heard of george foreman? not to mention the other 20 guys i could think of who are at least as good and better punchers (who also weren't 6'8" 250 lbs.)?