Vitali H2H top 10 HW ATG?

While his achievements and resume don't put him close to top ten, he is very formidable in the H-2-H consideration.

He aquitted himself well against his only serious challenge and that was a top five ATG, admittedly at the end of his prime.

Ali lost to Norton.

Lewis to Rahman.

Tyson to Douglas

Louis to Schmeling

etc.

So any great can lose on a given night.

But taking BOTH boxers at their best for this thought experiment, I don't think there's been ten who would have beaten Vitali.

H-2-H, I have him comfortably in the top ten.

Pity he wasn't tested more rigorously.

 

He is strong all around as you mention.

However, he has one flaw which will always attract some "no" votes: He is white (and whites who think blacks are superior, or blacks will always say no.).

 

Yeah his face was injured by Lennox's fist and he quite like a ***** versus Byrd. Tyrell Briggs beat a man with only one arm for most of a fight VK quite on his stool. If you look at fighters at their peak I see more than 10 guys who could beat him off of the top of my head . . .

1) Ali
2) tyson
3) Forman
4) Lennox
5) Ike
6) Bowe
7) Holmes
8) Louis
9) Ruddock
10) Norton

( I was kidding about Cooney earlier but Golota who was beating bowe would be a tough fight for almost anyone)

There are a dozen more that would hand him his ass. Yes, he has solid technique (robotic and predictible but effective) and size (which you cannot take away from him no more than you can take away Jordan's verticle leaping ability). Given these two points I cannot see him as anything more than a contender in any other era ( well he would beat rocky because the size difference would be to great. I see this whole thread as a way for KBros fans trying to ingrain the greatness of their boys by constantly repeating their claims. Greatness in Klitchko = WMD in Iraq

 

or maybe he is nothing more than a very good fighter in the worst era of heavyweight boxing.

 

Who has he beat?

Got KO'ed by the two best heavyweights that he fought...

 

V.K. is a bad dude in the ring. 'Nuff said.. Racial slander or not, it is mainly "Homies" from the hood and aging "Old Farts" who **** and **** all over the "K" brothers... A high percentage of fight fans with knowledge and are between ages 25 to 50 yrs of age will generally agree that V.K. is a ring great at heavyweight.... Cheers....

MR.BILL:good:hey:bbb

 

Cocaine is a hell of a drug...

 

I'm no holds barred.... Straight shooter down the pike....... I tell it like it is....... Too many folks today are wishy-washy and are afraid to speak their mind freely.... I'd rather get spoon fed harsh reality rather than that of bull**** fantasy...... WORD!

MR.BILL

 

I don't wish to sound negative but **** ME!!! How is he an ATG - name his career defining fights

such as Ali vs Foreman, Ali vs Frazier, Louis vs Schmelling, Holmes vs Shavers, etc, etc;
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Yeah, putting him inthe top 10 all time is pretty ridiculous. He lost a rpime fight against Chris Byrd and got stopped by a vbery old Lennox Lewis. His has no career defining wins and has can't even be comfortably called the best heavyweight of his era.

He will also go done as a heavyweight who has prime losses and did not avenge them, which hurts.


He is boderline top 20, at best.

Keith

 

Ali
tyson
Johnson
Marciano
Lewis
Bowe
Golota
Holmes
Frazier
Foreman
Liston
Louis
Dempsey
Tunney



Off the top of my head.



Keith