Vitali H2H top 10 HW ATG?

Vitali would ****ing destroy Joe Louis... if you dont think so , you are denying physics and are a complete nostaglic ignoramus. same with Marciano, Frazier, Dempsey and Tunney... Liston maybe has a shot... but every one else considered in the top ten ever I would favor over Vitali.... THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER END OF THREAT.

 

Keep taking the tablets buddy.
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Dempsey would have trouble, but I would still make him the favorite.

Marciano would be in Vitali's chest all day, and Marciano woudln't quit if he got hurt. That would be a long night for Vitali.


Keith

 

I would definately rate him in the top 10
H2h, Lewis, Holmes, Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, and Tyson, may possibly beat Vitali.

 

Golotha? My God when I thought I've seen it all.

 

Yes but this was out of his control. He had major shoulder surgery after the Byrd fight, and there was no real need for a rematch, because the first fight showed who the better fighter was.

And he was obsessed with getting a Lewis rematch, Lennox wanted no part of it and fair enough.

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Fixed:good

 

No the first fight showed Byrd could take every thing Vitali had (Something he could not do with a fighter like Ibeabuchi) and go on to win latter rounds and outlast Vitali.


Regardless of circumstances ha has avenges none of his losses.

Just a fact that should be noted.

keith

 

in that case, floyd mayweather should be #1 p4p ATG :hey

 

Byrd was miles behind on the scorecards, could not win a decision, and realistically was not going to KO Vitali late.

If a healthy Vitali showed up for a rematch 6 months later, do you honestly predict any result other than Vitali by UD/late stoppage?

Lennox retired to avoid a rematch with Vitali (the correct move for him and no stain on his legacy at all), had they rematched, Vitali would have gone in as the betting favourite.

He didn't avenge either loss no, but neither did he truly fail to avenge them. Byrd especially, a rematch was not required as say Rahman was for Lewis. It's not as good as rematching and winning by KO Lewis style, but it's not a huge smear on his record. It's not good, but it's not as much of a black mark as Wlad not avenging himself vs Sanders or Purrity, who both defeated Wlad much more convincingly than either Byrd or Lewis did to Vitali.

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Is he better than

Ali
Louis
Dempsey
Marciano
Lewis
Liston
Holyfield
Tyson
Langford
Holmes
Frazier
Foreman
Tunney
Johnson

etc etc?

I don't think so. Vitali is top 15 though, I think.

 

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He didn't need to win a decision, he won by stoppage, which you do when behind on the scorecards. You gut it out and hope it goes your way. Which it did. All Vitali had to do was nut it up like many fighters before him, and he probably wins. But he didn't.
You can make excuses all you want, but my point is irrefutable. He has never avenged a loss.


Keith