Vitali has likely ended his boxing career

:-(

 

Wlad has already established himself as the universally recognised heavyweight champion. He has essentially cleaned out the division, save for the obvious.

Winning the (hypothetically) vacant WBC belt won't add anything to his legacy, unless he happens to beat someone worth a dime. The days when any alphabet belt held intrinsic value have long since passed.

 

I want to see Vitali fight someone undefeated, a young challenger. I believe this summer we will see his last fight.

Denis Boytsov, if promoted well, could be a great farewell fight for Vitali Klitschko.

Vitali-Valuev would have been a blockbuster in eastern europe. Exciting for casuals.

Haye would also be a good choice. There is really not much left for the them anyways.

 

Would love to see Vitali/Valuev. Sadly, I don't think Valuev will ever take that fight.

Boytsov, Haye or Povetkin. Would love to see any of those three.

 

If this is true then it's not up for debate that he has retired rather than face Haye to see wh is currentl number 2 in the HW division.

 

You could read the context. One guy didnt know why the greats of the 890s didnt need to WBO and another was questioning Lennox Lewis' claim to the unidsputed title when Byrd and uiz were around.

Belts have a place in boxing, the whole thing is set up with them in mind, bt once you have an undisputed champion the abc orgs can do one.

 

I am all for Wlad unifying the belts. At least we will have one champ again.

 

You are confusing ring ranking with undisputed status. Byrd was clearly a higher-ranked contender than Tyson at the time and he was IBF mandatory. Lewis failed to answer the challenge, got stripped hence he was no longer undisputed. That's being generous because purists would argue that Lewis lost undisputed status when he was stripped of WBA title for failing to face Ruiz.

 

Me too.I'd take Haye to tko him now.Providing Haye through caution to the wind

 

You are confusing alphabet titles with having two shits' worth of significance.

The Ring belt and rankings are not without problems, but their ethos is the correct one:

Championships are won by either beating the Man, or if vacant beating all legitimate rival claimants.

Championships once held are won and lost in the ring.


Lewis and Holyfield fought to determine the legitimate champion. Ruiz and Byrd won bogus paper titles by beating Holyfield, who had obviously already lost to Lewis. There was no legitimate alternative claimant to the title, or any "dispute" over who the best fighter in the division was. At the time, believe it or not, Michael Grant was regarded as the outstanding challenger to the title, who Lewis faced and destroyed.

Linking "purism" with corrupt alphabet absurdity is a complete misnomer. No boxing purist would ever support stripping deserving champions, fabricating titles, charging exorbitant sanctioning fees and all of the other **** they have been guilty of. Purists want a return to one recognised champ per division, and not a sport where shameless acquisition of meaningless trinkets is used to enhance flimsy legacies.

 

He just doesn't want to get fowken glazd

 

ive never understood that argument..... take away the 2 best and heres what you will be seeing in title fights

(for example)

bermain stevens vs tomas adamek

Arreola vs eddie chambers

tony thompson vs alexander dimentrenko

helinus would pick up a title
povetkin would stay the wba champ
and 2 other top guys would get a belt

and none of the best will put their title up against another.....

i think it would or could be a disaster
at least the champions now are considered good....

 

"lineal" is not equal "undisputed"

 

No way is this true.

He said just a few days ago he was certainly not retiring, and was looking forward to more fights.

I think he's gonna try, once again, to get Haye.

 

"Undisputed" is a relatively modern term, and is essentially meaningless if the criteria is set by the whims of corrupt governing bodies.

Championships are won and lost in the ring. It doesn't really matter if some putz in Venezuela or Panama decides to "dispute" this by slapping a paper title on a fighter whose promoter is tight with them.

Lewis was the champ - remained so until he retired.

Wlad is the champ now - will remain so until he loses or retires.


Not a difficult concept, and makes things a lot simpler.