Vitali - Haye sensible thread

that squirrel of yours has so many adventures. i cant wait to see what he does next

 

well put.
scared to engage = scared to get knocked the **** out

 

I was gonna revert to the original today but had this one laying around since I thought about using it for New Years. I'll go back to the original in a while and maybe change it up if I get 'inspired'. I do have one more that I could use. We'll see...

 

That's very possible and I haven't really picked a winner in this fight. I just think some are selling Haye a little short and believe there's no possible way he can win, when it is plausible.
It just depends on whether he executes or not

I'm not excusing him fighting like a ho. I'm just explaining why he struggled so bad (as well as the size and skill disadvantage).

 

fair enough

 

His fights with Ruiz, Chisora, Barrett was exciting and blasted Bonin out in 1 round. He showed in those fights he can fight in the pocket and engage. He took out Harrison when he felt like it with his first attack.

He threw 50 punches per round against Chisora which disapproves your theory about he can only throw 10.

4 of his 7 fights at heavy have been exciting. Harrison was always going to be unentertaining because Harrison would not throw punches and couldn't take Haye's power.

Valuev is impossible to look good against and broke his hand early in the fight so could not be more aggressive and go for the knockout.

Wlad fight Haye could not push off his right foot because he was injured. You will see later on the year when he gets the rematch with Wlad after knocking Vitali spark out what he can really do.

 

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If that is the case he needs to go back down to Cruiserweight that isn't a valid excuse at Heavyweight. Sorry.

I don't think Haye has the Cardio to go 12 hard rounds at Heavyweight and I think that is why he throws so few punches. His 2 fights that went the distance he was throwing less than 15 punches a round. :roflatsch

Might as well not even show up if you are going to do that crap.

 

Sounds like you are describing Haye against Wlad and Valuev :roflatsch

 

OF COURSE he's scared to engage. He knows his suspect chin would get exposed (again).:yep

 

Mainly reaction to the mindlessness of the trolls. It is boxing where one punch......

He has shown zero clue on how to do that against bigger opponents. Someone pointed out that Vitali is MUCH better than Valuev and David was pretty reluctant to engage Valuev so engaging Vitali is much less likely. Haye isn't changing that drastically if this fight happens.

 

I have truly been a fan of Haye since (and especially) in his Cruiser Weight days, but the only way he takes out big Vit is if Vit has declined dramatically due to age......which at this point isn't outside the realm of possibility.

 

I have serious doubts this is going to happen.

 

Are you serious? You don't even deal with the details of the boxing tendencies/styles? Just the gossip? Why is this such a surprise. Sensible fans have been saying this since before the Wlad fight. Of course Haye didn't risk it against Wlad when he should have. Plenty of fighters aren't willing to throw caution and comfort out the window with the risk of possibly getting stopped.