Vitali implies that Wladimir was drugged in his first fight with Brewster..

cause or effect ! Perhaps ( as he claimed ) his only chance at winning was to get BREW out early because he was feeling weak ? the fight stank ! live with it !

 

Do you have a learning disability? When did I say it never happened? Does Lewis' losses to McCall and Rahman disappear because he beat them? Of course not. Does Wladimir's losses ever disappear? Of course not... but the point of a rematch is to right a wrong. To avenge a defeat and set things straight.. if not... what is the point, or significance of a rematch?

Nothing will ever erase what happened in Wlad's past. However, the point is that obviously whatever happened in his past, he has grown from it and is a much better fighter now. So.. back to the point I already made 8 times.... what does it matter? If you believe that Wlad's stamina was shitty in that fight, that he punched himself out, ect..... obviously that isn't a problem anymore. So, it has nothing to do with the fighter that we see in his prime today.

 

Right... I guess Brewster is lying when he said that Wlad ran out of gas.:rofl I guess Brewster was lying when he said that he heard Wladimir gasping for air in the second round. Brewster was lying when he said that he knew that Wladimir would get exhausted from beating on him, and he did.

You must really think Brewster is a liar.

 

Good point. He must have gone down because he got punched in the chin then :hi:

 

No, but I saw with my own eyes Brewster punching WALDO in the chin, and WALDO staggering back across the ring like Bambi on ice, and then flopping to the canvas.

I'm sure WALDO was gassed, but he didn't fall to the canvas without a little help from left hooks - denying it just makes you look an even bigger idiot than normal.

 

When Wlad was punched in the chin... he didn't go down. Get your facts straight.:good Watching a fight always helps when discussing it. Also, if you watched it you must be deaf... because all of the commentators including Roy Jones were takling about how exhausted Wlad was, and how he looked like he was ready to go, before Brewster even landed a punch in the 5th.

I guess you only hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see. Ignorance is bliss.

 

So... you are claiming that it was a lucky punch? You are claiming that Yes, Wladimir dominated Brewster for 14 of 15 minutes and then was caught by a lucky punch? Ok. That is your stance.

Or is it your stance that Brewster's gameplan was to get near death, and then end the fight anytime that he wanted to? I wonder when he planned on doing it last night, until he decided to quit instead.:huh

 

If all you want to talk about is the first fight, then fine... I will stop responding to you on this matter. I live in the real world as it is today, not over 3 years ago. I had these discussions 3 years ago, and at this point in Wlad's career, his first fight with Brewster is a thing of the past that has no significance on his career right now.

 

looky here. the same people who were saying stop with the excuses for the rematch are now bringing their excuses for the first brewster/klitschko.
hypocrisy at its finest

 

Vlad was drugged the night of the first Brewster fight. The US Boxing media did a job of propaganda against the circumstances of that night. Vlad does not run out of gas in the first few rounds, plus Vlad could have died that night, yet US Boxing Media did not care. I have seen all of Vlad's fights, have all of them, he has never run out of gas in any fight except the Puritty fight early in his career and that was in the 11th round. No chin problem. Vlad threw more punches in the Mercer fight than in the Brewster fight, also had no problem going 12 hard rounds with Brewster's cousin Byrd. Where was the stamina problem then? A diabetic coma is very serious, blood sugar was very dangerous, yet no concern for Vlad's health, on concern for a propaganda job by US Boxing media. MRI does not lie, Vlad had zero signs of any concussion period, doctors were only concerned with diabetic coma. Two tests disappeared, video of a person in Vlad's dressing room, stolen ID, missing water bottle, no betting on Vitali's fight allowed, the sudden reduction of betting odds on Vlad in the first fight, etc., if this had been a basketball, game, baseball, football, there would have been an automatic investigation, game cancelled, etc., but all those who hate the Klitschkos, any Euro fighter, only care about their hatred. Vlad is extremely talented, the bias had causes us to see fewer of his fights. He is extremely talented. Before Vitali fought in US, US Boxing media said he has zero stamina, no chin, was slow, etc., a lie! I know because I had been waching their fights all these years, so I knew about their fights, their talent, etc., yet US Boxing media kept lying. Max Kellerman, on ESPN2, FNF, said that he would never recognize the WBO as long as a Klitschko had the title! How biased! Vlad is a very excellent fighter, yet there are still those who claim he is slow, clumsy, no balance, no defense, no chin, no stamina, etc. I think those who say such have not seen all his fights. Gold medal winner of 1996 Olympics, superheavyweight division, world military champion, internation champion, etc. I have been in boxing all my life and I have never seen such a talented heavyweight in all my life, but because of all the bigotry, bias, lies, provincialism, etc., we missed seeing such a good fighter fight. It is sad. When he is retired, I will miss watching such a heavyweight. Vlad is, by far the best heavyweight today. Re-read the Judd letter, read some of Emanuel's interviews, Scoop Malinowski was on boxing writer who had the courage to write the truth, but he was one of only a very few. Sad. Chris Byrd claimed that Vlad poisoned his gloves in their first fight, yet I heard nothing between rounds from he or his father, anyone in his corner say anything about eyes burning! Max Kellerman kept claiming Byrd was a victim of glove poisoning! Not true, yet US Boxing Media treated Byrd's claims as if it was legit, yet there was zero evidence, gloves were checked, yet still nothing said about the fact that they were clean. Yet, with all the evidence of circumstances, anyone who mentioned Vlad being drugged was always covered up. Can you imagine if Austin, or anyone of Don King's fighters had had such evidence? People need to do their own investigations, agendas are there too much. I remember some other reports on fights that were no seen in America, yet media said crap that was no where near the truth! Ignore the circumstances, motives, proofs, etc., but alway take seriously the lies.

 

There were mysterious circumstances surrounding the first fight. Just look at the face off before referee giving them final instructions. In the first fight Brewster looked so confident. In the second he was timid.

It is bad that there was not an investigation about the first fight. We will never learn the truth and speculate forever.

 

Thanks for posting that letter Widdow.