Vitali K vs Prime Larry Holmes

holmes was faster yes. but he was smaller. stronger is certainly debatable.

holmes would reach him more more often due to speed, sharpness and workrate. that is how

purely on physical features, vitali comes out ahead. based on physical features and proven skill against top competition, holmes comes out far ahead

 

If Ross purity, corrie sanders lamon Brewster, chris Byrd, lennox Lewis could do it, and if Haye looks like a defensive genius why wouldn't Ali beat the klitschkos?

 

1. If Ken Norton , George Chuvalo , Joe Frazier , Doug Jones , Henry Cooper .. y wouldn't d Klitschkos ?

2. because Ali was not as big , strong and offensively sound as Lewis
because Ali was not as slick as Chris Byrd (and Byrd's slickness did failed him vs d lesser brother twice out of twice)
because Ali was not as aggressive , determined in it and a hard hitter as Ross Puritty or Lamon Brewster and u know he was nothing alike , only in toughness he was .
Ali's combination punching wasn't anything near Sanders' , nor was he anything alike , Sanders was a volume counter combination puncher , and d fastest of this type , maybe d only 1 as well , and Sanders did fail against Vitali although years removed from his prime by then .

 

holmes was not faster and surely weaker .
holmes had a belly , Vitali's (bigger) mass is lean .
Holmes had more workrate and was sharper than vitali ? now that's debatable .
But even if so , workrate and sharpness do not help when out of reach .
Vitali > Holmes

 

Holmes by decision.

I see his movement and timing being the keys to victory against Vitali.

Too smooth and too lively for Vitali imo. Klitschko would defo have his moments but the decision wouldn't be in doubt.

I fancy Vitali to kick his toys out of the pram at the end because of frustration with how it went.

 

Holmes was hit repeatedly by fighters that wouldn't land anything meaningful on Vitali. It's amazing how few people realize how good prime Vitali's reflexes were, he was a master of timing his awkward backward leaning movement to make opponents miss. Noone ever outlanded Vitali, even Lewis landed 100:158 punches.

 

it's a fair post even if i disagree.

i feel holmes was notably faster in hand and foot. i could agree with weaker but not by much

holmes physical appearance is irrelvant. he was able to go 15 of the toughest rounds in heavyweight history with norton and his stamina is unquestionably superior to vitalis

holmes definitely had a better workrate and was sharper, against i don't think this is up for debate

a lot of it depends on how much you think vitali's style would counter holmes. if you feel that his use of his physical advantages is that much of a factor, then an argument could be made for him winning. I just don't see that

 

funny. eddy murphy, richard pryor, john belushi and frankenfrank. you fit right in between the comedians.
but please in you're infinate wisdom enlighten me.. what do you mean with depicable and criminal acts by ali and dundee ?????????



never mind i don't wanna here that b...sh.t atsch

 

Holmes wins by comfortable decision. He'd be too fast for vitali, outjabbing him with his much quicker jab and mixing in occassional rights. And although a clean knockout is highly unlikely, a stoppage on cuts is possible.

 

so u repeated your arguments in your post i already replied to and dismissed while showing nothing against my reply . So my post u quoted still stands as a reply 2 your post i quoted here

 

No man Larry by TKO he hit too much to hard and to fast,vitali would look like vs lewis

 

Holmes was faster what you on about!?!

Workrate and timing would help Larry.

 

As usual, these Klitschko vs said ATG threads have turned to empty nonsense.. I respect everyone's opinion and agree that Vitali would be a tough fight for most greats, but seriously... People are claiming that Vitali was "faster" than Holmes, had a better workrate, was sharper and more durable?

 

of course most of these arguments are started by trolls or people who were born after 1990, but it still doesn't diminish the appauling feeling of the lack of respect for the sweet science and the greats who helped to make it such.

 

That aint even half of it