Vitali K vs Prime Larry Holmes

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Holmes , with his own 80" plus reach and speed too much and outboxes Vitali ... too fast, too good but Vitali very tough and strong right through the end ... a 9-6 sort of decision ...
     
  2. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1)you can't just say things and make them facts. the norton fight was not a robbery, he didn't get a "thumb stoppage" whatever the **** that is against shavers, the consensus is witherspoon and williams weren't robberies but could have gone either way

    2)if holmes doesn't make it in your top 20 it's embarassing and reflects soley on you. if holmes doesn't make your top 10 you need a REALLY strong argument to make that claim

    3)respectfully, i have no idea what that last paragraph says. seriously, i don't know what you're saying. but you say that it doesn't matter if holmes was faster and busier? how does that NOT matter? I'm sorry if I missed it but i have no idea where you rendered that argument irrelevant. of course that matters and vitali would get outlanded as a result.

    4)Just cause someone disagrees doesn't mean they're avoiding your argument or your facts. you keep saying I'm eluding your argument but from what i can see, your argument solely consists of :

    "holmes was fat"
    "vitali wins"

    i'm certainly not avoiding that it's just really hard to debate when they aren't facts...nor is there any evidence that they're true.

    orlin norris sucks
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so u either know **** about holmes vs shavers #2 or u simply pretend 2 not know it as usual since d casual fan who reads your post may b convinced by your intentionally flawed arguments .
    my argument is my top 10 , then my argument is my top 20 that usually
    does contain holmes but not always .

    that was my argument despite u already read , understood and quoted it :
    then u said it was a valid argument but re2rned 2 ignore it .

    y , cause he doesn't find u serious / legit enough 2 grant u n interview ?
     
  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see Vitali being a problem for Holmes. I don't think any of Larry opponents were of the caliber of Vitali stylistically. Michael Spinks had the awkwardness and angles that Vitali had but not the power,size or ruggedness. Holmes could open a cut but he is not going to dominate Vitali with a jab and lets remember Vitali has a very effective right hand which would find a home on Holmes and most likely JAR him. Vitali is far better than a 14-1 Bone crusher Smith and a much better finisher than 22 fight Reynaldo Snipes. Now is this fight 12 or 15 rds. Depending on how Larry fights (if he fights defensively) he may lose a decision, If Larry fights aggressively he could get stopped....
     
  5. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i don't believe it .
     
  6. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Damn...remember Maynard? Rhetorical question...sorry. :p

    That guy looked for all the world (for a while) of being the next big thing, and the next thing you know...
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Yeah I saw some of his earlier prospect fights with men like Kemper Morton and Mike Sedillo... The Sedillo fight was a war that Maynard nearly lost... I then saw him lose to Bobby Cyz. After that he never really recovered... Hearns knocked him out on the under card of Holy-Bowe II
     
  8. madman101

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    Did i just wake from a bad dream where someone said chris byrd was slicker than the greatest my god. As for this fight i like vitali and he is a tough s.o.b but his whole career is based on the lewis fight, the only atg he has ever fought as for larry holmes one of the top 5 atg heavyweights with the second best jab ever (liston had the best imo) and that chin how did he get up from that shavers punch i will never know the outcome is a hard fought but wide points win for the eastern assassin.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If it weren't for people wasting their time arguing with the biggest moron troll in the world, this thread would have ended within probably two pages.
     
  10. madman101

    madman101 New Member Full Member

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    This guy must be having a laugh or he's on crystal meths haven't laughed this much in ages :lol:
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Here's a suggestion... Try NOT responding to him and see how funny he finds himself after a few days.
     
  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sanders beats Liston and Purrity beats Ali

    just one of the many classic posts from this clown
     
  13. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    come on magoo, by now I really think frank believes what he writes. i don't think he's a troll...and he does know boxing just seems to have distorted views on every fighter in history and makes up random facts, notably about who won fights despite evidence to the contrary. evidence such as clear decisions and knockouts
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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  15. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    This is a tough fight but I think holmes gets a ud, but if vitali gets him hurt he kould finish him. But,holmes will out jab and probably out work him. ud holmes