Vitali Klitchsko vs the Brown Bomber Joe Louis prime for prime

Against who?

And I don't think he is a good puncher at all. Arm punches. Stoppages by attrition against poor opposition.

 

Probably Vitali.

 

The big men that Louis fought were not a s good as Vitally, but they were not exactly bums either.

If Louis had a stylistic problem with this type of fighter, or if the size disparity was too much for him to overcome, then they should have done at least as well as the smaller heavyweights Louis fought.

The results of these fights don't just suggest that Louis could overcome the size disparity.

They suggest that he actually excelled against bigger heavyweights!

 

If he said this, then I could point to multiple cases where he said the opposite.

Lets face it, if he really thought that he was in his prime, then why did he retire!

 

Against several ring magazine ranked opponents, some of which were rated #2 or #3 when he fought them! Against other champions, such as Lewis and Byrd Vitali stopped guys like Purrity, Donald, and Bean tough guys to stop, and often ended his match sooner than others did vs the same opponent.

The competition in Louis time was weak. Ring Magazine who loves Joe Louis ranked decades and Louis time came out on the bottom...yet at times he struggles with them, and just two of his 26 title opponents were black.

I hope you learn something when you read my posts. By contrast Vitali had no color line, never struggled with sub 200 pound men, never lost rounds to lesser men, and lost an even greater amount if his prime to engage in politics for his country.

 

Where is the primary source for this? Louis was past his prime when he came out of the Army in October 1945,he said it in several books and everyone knows it. Louis continued fighting because he owed $81,000 in back taxes.

 

It's not impressive when the competition is so weak.

Credit to him for maintaining focus, he is evidently a determined and driven character. Some champions coast rounds when they know they have the opposition outclassed. It doesn't mean much.

And as for the comment on Louis having a weak era as well (debatable whether it was as weak as Vitali's) - at least Louis cleaned that era up. Vitali did not.

 

Thats because the PUBLIC drew the color line, how stupid can you be not to know this? They preferred to see white fighters.

 

Its a bit difficult to answer that isn't it?lol

 

Joe Louis himself said he was in his prime for the Mauriello match, he fought Walcott next.

He said the something like I feel as good as ever leading up the Walcott Re-match.

Louis' job in the army was to box exhibition matches to entertain the troops and he was in over 100 of them. He wasn't outside of the ring for years.

Yes he fought on because he owed taxes but the question here is, was he out of his prime at age 33 for Walcott? I say no.

 

BS! He fought two African Americans in title fights.

If a color line was drawn, he would have fought none.

A match with Franklin who at one point won 18 matches in a row or Elmer Ray would have been nice. Just to of 26 title opponents vs African Americas. Are you telling me some weren't more worthy than the run in the mill bum of the month guy Louis fought? The gate for Walcott vs Louis was a good one. So much for the theory two African Americans fighting for a heavyweight title would not draw. I'd ask you to research before you type, but I'm not sure if that is possible

 

Louis did not fight the top black talent in general from 1937 to 1938, so please explain to me how he cleared up the era?

My hunch is you are not a boxing historian. That's okay. If you want to learn to look up Lem Franklin, Elmer Ray, Turkey Delete repeated word, Archie Moore, Lee Q Murray, and Curtis Sheppard. I could throw out a few more names.

All of the above would have made good matches for Joe Louis and would rate better than at least 10 men Louis gave world title shots too.

What I'd like to see is if you can learn and acknowledge.