Vitali Klitschko (1999) vs Zaire Ali (1974)

I see only one troll here ...lol

 

Purity and Donald were two very hard guys to stop. Guess who stopped them?

Ali in 1974 did not have the stamina, and resting on the ropes, giving up a lot of height isn't the answer. Nor is trading with a bigger puncher.

 

I would favor Vital at anytime but in the 60's Ali was not physically stronger ,and thats one attribute he would need at least to some what keep Vital off him . Another point is Ali did not fight well going forward if Vital sets the not just the pace but style of the fight and makes Ali the aggressor he can beat him at his own game .

 

So stopping a shot to **** Donald and Ross Purrity (on a cut) means he's capable of stopping Muhammad Ali?

Ali stoping Vitali is more likely than vice versa. Ali stopped legit iron chinned world class fighters.

 

Ali stopped Foreman. Thats better than stopping a journeyman and a shot to bits 90's fringe contender.

If Byrd rope a doped Vitali , so could Ali. Are you saying Byrd was better than Ali as well ? You seem to think Purrity and Donald were , so i guess you do.

Ali had an inhuman level of stamina and conditioning in Zaire. Do you have any idea what those body shots he took off George would do to a normal man? Why am i even asking , of course you don't.

Even 4 fights later in Manilla his stamina and endurance was on a completely different level to what you see today.

Vitali had a Arthur Abraham and Felix Sturm type of record. Only elite level players are in the discussion when talking about fantasy fights with Ali.
Would you pick Abraham to beat the likes of Benn and Gerald mcclellan? Because thats the same as picking Vitali to beat Ali

 

If the cops ever got a search warrant for Dino's apartment, I do believe that we would hear about it on the news. Talk about 1 track minds

 

Ok , lets.

How about when these threads pop up , you and Doza pick Wlad and Vitali to beat every single HW that ever lived. Its totally infeasible they could lose a fight against the greatest HWs in history. Hows that for one track tunnel vision?

Just look at this thread - Vitali who has an absolutely abysmal connect percentage stops Ali . Couldn't hurt , stagger nor drop Byrd , but he stops Ali?? Botton of the barrel material right there. Its the type of stuff you read on caster football.
Flop mate. Flop all the way back to Flopville.

 

Ali was NEVER strong enough to match Vitali physically. But at least in the 60's he had the type of lightening speed, stamina and workrate to potentially outpoint him. He was too sluggish by the mid 70's to pull this off, which is precisely why he needed the rope a dope to conserve energy. Problem is, the rope a dope strategy wouldn't work against Klitschko.

 

he never said "its totally infeasible they could lose a fight against the greatest HWs in history" ,,, you made that up and then called one track tunnel vision on him, what a SNEAKY weasel you are for doing that and then daring to call FLOP, talk about a REAL FLOP, putting words in others mouths and then calling them out.

Cheap Dino, real real cheap.

I am going to remember this Dino.

Don't head down the road Foxy went, look what happened to him.

I suggest you apologize for the misquote and attempt another post using the real degree of reality this time.

For what its worth, I have Ali beating Vits, I just don't like posters that try to be SNEAKY when misquoting others, its not honourable Dino.

 

no its the opposite. for everyone, not just lewis.

but dont let that stop you, you keep on arguing against the whole of human biology. good luck.

there is no joke, only YOU were sick enough to interpret it as a joke. Please explain WHY YOU DID SO. thank you.

 

Vitali does not beat Zaire Ali.

Zaire Ali is possibly the hardest fighter in history to beat. You are fighting a man that built up the whole globe to cheer him on. You are fighting him in Zaire, and you will feel like a complete outsider fighting in the kings backyard.

Ali controlled Foreman that fight. He somehow took a guy that had every physical advantage on him, and was clever enough to use those advantages against him. He would do the same with Vitali. He would maneuver his arms, and land clean shots at his head, and then move away to a roaring crowd cheering their approval. Vitali wouldn't be able to avoid Ali's counters, maneuvering, feints, and speed.

Vitali has the physical goods, where he SHOULD win. Like Foreman should've won. But 5 rounds in, he will start feeling his height as a burden when Ali starts beating him to the punch easily, talking trash to him on every break. The crowds intensity will increase. The stamina will set in. And at that point, Vitali will know that he is in the wrong place.

In this forum we talk so much about size. Not enough about psychology and heart, which is more important. With how much this fight meant to Ali, and the stakes involved, Vitali might need a shotgun to beat him in Zaire.

 

you, in the reflection of your computer screen true. I'm certainly not where you are, only u r.

 

The question isnt whos stronger ,its what version of Ali would stand the better chance which would be the smarter and more durable one which is Ali not Cassius . Ali wouldn't use the rope tactic because Vitali wasnt an agrressive fighter who wasted punches ,he would mythodically pick him apart . Ali better counter punching and inside clinch game is his best bet one i think wont work but just running around doesnt get him any where either.

 

I'm explaining nothing to you sicko. Now please stop discussing a topic unrelated to the thread. I'm trying to stop you getting banned.

I pick Ali to beat Vitali.

 

I didn't quote him on anything , so how did i miss quote him? Plus he started it