Vitali Klitschko (2003/2004) vs Wladimir Klitschko (2006-2014)

I think Vitali's better chin gets him the win against Wlad

 

Wlad should outbox Vitali. I mean before Wlad's losses to Sanders and Brewster everyone considered Wlad better. And after Vitali's comeback everyone considered Wlad better. It's not like Vitali is a powerpuncher either

 

Wlad wins.He is the better boxer

 

I don’t think Wlad ever beats Vitali. Vitali was mentally strong, physically strong, had an Iron Chin and a very awkward lean back style and seemed to have an uncanny ability to know when to pull his head back from an opponent’s punches. He also had a killer instinct that I think Wlad somewhat lacked.

 

Actually, Vitali always said his brother was the better boxer

 

Wlad has the better fundamentals. Vitali's only shot would be by KO. The safe bet is Wlad on points

 

I think even Vitali does not agree with you

 

I think Wlad would be able to win rounds against Vitali, but Vitali would be able to get to much of his offence going for Wlads chin.

 

Wait a minute-200 punches per round? If you even meant 100 that is untrue-in his record setting HW performance Ike "only" averaged a bit north of 80 per rounds. Please say what you meant or correct the number, with references or examples.

While I tend to favor Vitali, you are also very confused by saying he hit harder.
Everyone believes the opposite, I believe everyone is correct. No "arm puncher" can hit harder than among the hardest hitting SHW ever.
Please show the citation where Wla said the opposite. Thank you.

 

Fury is a terrible example given Wlad's age & his psychological condition given events in his life. Might as well reference Ali vs. Holmes.
As I just wrote, your punch count is way way off. Look it up & hyperlink actual evidence.
Though again, I think Vitali should be favored.

And he was a skilled martial artist & a dedicated, principled activist & politician.

 

About your 2 responses, thank you, & I tend to favor Vitali, but I keep asking for links.
Your 200 punches per round must have been a mistake that you never addressed.
The 100 + per round may be true for rare rounds for either Brother, but that is very different from the average you were claiming for Vitali.

Anyway no reason not to include any hyperlinks, since you will claim it is easy to establish.
Although again you have shifted your claims dramatically.

You can also include Wlad's admissions, but if it is years before he finished his career, even if correct & not modest, it does not mean he was better since then.

And you have again changed the goalposts: a *better* or more effective puncher is completely different that a harder puncher.

Oh, but in a much longer career with many more fights-forget about better opponents-it is much harder to have the same KO rate. When you factor those things in, Wlad's is more impressive.
Wlad did not say his Brother hit harder, & almost everybody believes the opposite.
No arm puncher will hit harder than a very hard hitting SHW.

 

If it was a hypothetical scenario where they weren’t brothers, and just 2 HW’s from the same country, it’s a different debate.

As is stands, Wlad is, and always has been second to Vitali.

Vitali is his hero.

He’s looked up to him his whole life.

He’s his big brother.

He’s the stronger, more dominant character.

Wlad would never have had the belief that he could have beaten him.

 

It’s not as simple as that.

Vitali is his big brother and his hero.

Wlad knows that he’s not physically and mentally as tough as Vitali.

Being the better boxer isn’t enough