Vitali Klitschko (2003/2004) vs Wladimir Klitschko (2006-2014)

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  1. McGrain

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    I'd pick Wlad, but it's so close and difficult, it's really hard to be sure.
     
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    I mean this is obviously a matter for opinion but so far as it goes it's true up to a point. I think that point was reached and breached when Wlad threw him out of his camp. He became pretty clear about who he was later in his career, and I see no advantage for Vitali in a fight because of their past against a prime version of Wlad. Even then it might easily be as true to say that Vitali would never be able to function against his younger brother after caring for him all his life that he would never be able to bring himself to hurt him.

    Pop psychology again but no more or less valid.
     
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  3. Loudon

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    Good post.

    Realistically, they would never have fought, even if they’re mother hadn’t have made them promise not to.

    Yes, Vitali has always tried to protect him in every aspect of his life. So he wouldn’t have wanted to have hurt him.

    Wlad has always looked up to him, and believes that he is his superior.

    That’s why it’s better to look hypothetically where they’re not related, where you can just do a breakdown based on their clash of styles.

    From the knowledge that I have accumulated of their family from over the years, Wlad wouldn’t have had the belief that he could have beaten him, even if they’d have been open to a fight.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Yeah, they would never have fought, and who would have wanted them to? You wouldn't have known if the result was pre-ordained.
     
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  5. Johnny_B

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    Wlad is probably the better boxer, but Vitaly wins cause he has a better chin and is not afraid to take risks.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I lean towards Vitali. He's more durable and more of a natural fighter and while Wlad is a somewhat better boxer and may hit harder, I think Vitali takes punches better.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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  8. PhillyPhan69

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    Wlad is greater but Vitali was better IMO and would beat Wlad H2H. Glad it never happened, I can’t imagine fighting my brother...at least since I was 16 or so
     
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  9. chico g

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    Don't want to take anything away from Wlad's reign. But prime Vitali would be too much for him. Better defence, and way more durable than his little brother.
     
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  10. Mendoza

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    I'd go with Vitali. Wlad wasn't good vs top pressure fighters, and Vitali had a confrontational / active style. Sooner or later some of Vitali's punches would land, and I don't think Wlad could the too many of them.

    The range and size of the two fighters are even, the durability, and defense are not. Wlad could win too, but he's have to be aggressive, he could not skate using his size and jab alone like he did in some of his fights.

    While both brother would pick the other, the results vs. common opponents show Vitali as the better.
     
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  11. Drago

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    Vitali with the late Fritz Stunek in his corner vs. Wlad with the late Manny Steward in his corner would be awesome!

    Since i am German i know the brother´s had some issues after Wlad´s defeat to Brewster in 2004.
    Vitali gave him the advice to quit boxing and he didnt like Steward back in the day. He tried to convince his little brother to go back to Sdunek but Wlad turned it down, he even said Vitali to leave his camp since he didnt like his negative approach towards Emanuel.


    But you know what nobody of you Posters mentioned:

    Both brothers are lowsy infighters, they dont have a real infight game. And since Wlad under Steward learned so well about Jab -> Jab -> Grab, it would be VERY difficult for Vitali to fight his usual fight against Wlad.

    Wlad has a bigger wingspan + better Jab, and if he would close to gap and grab Vitali like an octopus, Vitali would have much trouble to get out of this since his infight was not really good.
     
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  12. Drago

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  13. Kamikaze

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    What is your native language?
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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  15. THE BLADE 2

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    he has no clue how to fight on the inside
     
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