Vitali Klitschko - An ATG? Discuss with reasons either way

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I hadnt bothered reading it properly but will later break it down and blast it off ESB
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So has Arreola got a win that good? :oops::lol:
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    He'd already beaten Chisora and Haye hasnt fought since then and had to pull out of every fight after
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Doesnt mean he was losing before then.
     
  5. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't call them out then? How is that not Vitali's fault? Any why would you jump in to excuse his duckjobs?
     
  6. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali is ATG. Only haters would deny it. 11 consecutive title defences over almost 10 year span. The only HW champion who never lost more that 2 rounds in a fight. He has never been behind on cards, has never been down or received a count.
     
  7. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You forgot what he's never done either: Beat a good boxer.
     
  8. treeve

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    Good to hear as i was hoping for an objective conjecture that would be void of the nutthuggership that seems to follow the klitschko's .
    I may bash Vitali but he is worthy of a top 20 ATG
     
  9. madballster

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    It is hard to find more than 30 HW boxers in history who had better resumes and careers than Vitali. So yes, obviously he's an All Time Great. Probably at least a top 30 one.
     
  10. MAJR

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    Also twice strung along mandatory challengers for months on end promising to fight them only to retire instead.

    Also the only Heavyweight Champion of modern times to have been inactive for 16 months (of which 9 months included having a mandatory challenger) holding up the rest of the division becase he refused to relinquish the belt when he clearly had no interest in defended it and was only interested in his political career.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    again you try to reverse the truth.

    Corrie has only that, and it isn't much if it takes a 37 year old retiree to kill him and then hide in terror.
     
  12. Just Rik

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    Some may think I'm wrong, ignorant, hating, dumb, etc. but the only thing I think when I think about the Klitchsko's is that they are proof that heavies have a problem in their division. It's in the implementation in my opinion, because I don't believe you should be winning on a size advantage alone, which is what I think about them. I think the heavies have got to have a weight ceiling of about 225, next 250, etc.
     
  13. Just Rik

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    Haven't paid much attention to the heavies since Tyson, and I was a kid then but, I'm guessing they did not use their size advantage the way the Klitschko's do. The fact that they are twins which means they are identically about the same size and just so happen to have about the same success is pretty significant evidence that's it's more about their size than skill in my opinion.
     
  14. Just Rik

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    They're not twins?? Wow, didn't know that. Still though, I've seen many large heavy weights but none who are as dedicated to a jab as they. I'm not sure how that cannot be seen as consciously using they're size but hey, like you said, my opinion can't be objective due to my ignorance of the division.
     
  15. arve lie

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    Vitali vs Putin'
    will it last all rounds ?