Vitali Klitschko beats Sonny Liston

I would pick Sanders, Johnson, Donald, Williams, Purrity and Hide over both. I really think very little of Williams, as most of the awe surrounding him has to do with his height and reach rather than his accomplishments.

And no, I don't really think the lot of you are rubes or halfwits, I just like the way the phrase came to my mind.

 

ATG comeback, Hayeters(sic).


Long live Vitalaevus! Nox imz burznscht!

 

NO CONTEST - NC

Glass hearted spineless bullies Vitali And Liston both QUIT on their stools with "bad shoulders!".

"I cannnnnt go on, it hurts tooooooo much!"

 

What happens if they both quit on their stools between the same two rounds?

 

Double RTD??? :huh

 

Vitali and his brother are,without doubt,the best heavies since Lennox Lewis. However I can't see them beating a prime Liston.

 

The only time Vitali fought anyone similar to Liston was.....Lennox Lewis

 

One side effect of Wladamir's recent fight is that Admek is now ranked #2, behind only the brothers themselves.

This opens the way for Vitally to grab a significant scalp.

 

Vitali has a good chance here but I´d make Sonny the fav, better jab, more single shot power, better defence, more variaty and better inside game. Vitali is bigger and has a higher workrate. Both have good chins, so I don´t see a stoppage there. The difference in opposition isn´t that big either, both lost to the best fighters they faced. edge for Liston though since he beat Patterson. Sonny would be able to win the boxing game and the fighting game but he´d have a hard time with both. A close points win for Liston is the most likely, I can see a similar result for Vitali though. A three fight win would probably end 2-1 for Sonny though. Very even fight, good match up.

 

Are people suggesting Vitali is more powerful, not stronger, Powerful, than Liston?

You guys really reckon the slow, ponderous, Vitali, as he was against someone such as Kevin Johnson, could or would beat Liston?...

 

Williams is very overrated.

Vitali is very durable and has never been down in 44 pro fights. He has faced big punchers like Herbie Hide, Lennox Lewis, Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter, Cristobal Arreola, and Shannon Briggs. Vitali is very strong, has good power in both hands, has a dominating jab that is accurate and powerful. Almost 6'8", 80" reach, 250 solid Lbs. and he knows how to use his size advantages. Give this man the credit he deserves.

Vitali lost twice. Vs. Chris Byrd in 2000 he outboxed Byrd for 9 rounds but pulled out of the fight with an injured shoulder. If he could do it over I'm sure he would continue the fight. He made a mistake, Williams made plenty. He also lost to Lennox lewis. vs. Lewis he was ahead after 6 rounds but had been cut badly. The fight was stopped but Vitali wanted to continue... he had learned from his earlier mistake. Vitali has clearly defeated every other fighter he faced. Lewis even decided to retire rather than fight Vitali again.

42-2 (39) overall and 12-2 (10) in HW World Title fights. He's 9-1 (7) in WBC World Title fights and 3-1 (3) in WBO World Title fights.

What did Cleveland Williams do again?


...I'll tell you

Williams beat mostly bums with a few exceptions. 78-13-1 (58 KOs) overall and was stopped 8 times. He went 0-1 in HW World Title fights. 6'3", 80" reach, and 210 solid Lbs. He did stop Ernie Terrell in 7 rounds, he also lost a split-decision to Terrell. He drew with Eddie Machen. He was stopped in the early rounds by Bob Satterfield (a LHW) LKOby3, Sonny Liston x2 LKOby3 and LKOby2, and Ali LKOby3.

Even if Williams punched harder than Vitali... what is your point? If you can't land those bombs on the right people what does it matter? He stopped one world-class fighter in Ernie Terrell. He was destroyed by the best fighters he faced.

 

As for V. Klitschko vs. Liston?

I think it would a good fight. Yes, Liston had an 84" reach but he was about 7" shorter. Liston was big in his era but would be outweighed by about 35 Lbs. in this fight. Both men are solid and powerful. Vitali has never been down despite still fighting at age 40 (will be this month). Liston was down several times and stopped 3 times (counted out twice and a shoulder injury once in a fight he was losing on points). Vitali was stopped twice (injured shoulder and cuts, he was ahead on points in both).

Durability? I'll go with Vitali. Sure, he never faced a guy like Liston but Liston sure as hell never faced a guy like Vitali... a 6'8" 250 Lb. durable and athletic monster.

I'll take Vitali by TKO. I see Liston quitting in the late rounds with a beat up face.

 

What about Lewis vs. Liston?

 

V. Klit KO's Liston after a gruelling affair inside 10 rds.......bbb:admin

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