Vitali Klitschko could/should be undefeated. Top H2H

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so he did rematch byrd, did he? spill the beans on that one. was it a end of rocky 3 style bout without an audience and they didnt tell noone the outcome?

    NO, as far as vitali was concerned it was the end of. BYrd may not have risen to the heights he did previously but Vitali fought bums like charr and co for years so there is NO excuse for vitali not revenging himself.
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Vitali has the best rounds won vs. rounds lost ratio, not only in the history of Heavyweight champions but of all boxing champions never losing more than 3 rounds. Let that sink in for a moment.

    He was never floored by a punch. One of the very few.

    He has an all-time KO Percentage. Few are better, and age dulled his KO% more than anything else.

    He came back 4 years out of the ring in his late 30's to dominate and win his belt back without any warm up fights. Who else did this?

    And like Ali, he lost some of his best years for politics.

    Its a shame Lewis lacked the sack for a re-match that he said many times he would offer, and a Don King controlled Byrd would never re-match Vitali with Byrd's belt on the line, but that's the politics and boxing.
     
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  3. VVMM

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    The following comparsion proves how overrated Vitali Klitschko's H2H greatness.
    vitali - Gomez wtko 9 vs. 199 lbs Kudryashov-Gomez ko at 0:22 in the first round
    vitali - Sanders wtko8 vs. Machimana-Sanders wko1
    vitali - Kevin Johnson wud 12 vs. Joshua-Kevin Johnson wtko 2
    vitali - Chisora wud vs. Haye-Chisora wtko5
    vitali - Briggs wud vs. Darroll Wilson-Briggs wtko3
    vitali - Sosnowski wko 1 vs. Rozanski-Sosnowski wko1
    vitali - Danny williams.wtko8 vs. Granat-Danny Williams wko2
    vitali - Arreola wrtd 10 vs. Stiverne-Arreola wtko6
    vitali - Peter wrtd8 vs. Pulev-Peter wtko4

    Considering this and his (featherfisted Byrd,old overweight glass-chinned Lennox) losses
    Vitali doesn't look so dangerous fighter.
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

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    On his best day, Vitali would have been a tough fight for most ATG's, but Vitali's body failed him against his two best foes. He seemed injury prone, and by his own words, spent more time battling injuries than opponents during what could have otherwise been the peak run of his career.

    He would have beaten a few ATG's on his best night. But his body was too frail to ever achieve a long dominant reign as the best of the best. His win against Peter was impressive after the long layoff, but his list of opponents from his second career was otherwise pretty lackluster.

    If Vitali goes up against the top 20 heavyweights of all time, he might win more than he lost, but I can see a strong case for the reverse also being true.

    At the end of the day, Vitali will be best known for 2 things:
    1. Losing to Lewis
    2. Being Wlad's brother
     
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  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    In almost all cases Vitali stopped his man faster than just about anyone before him!

    You are only listing guys past their prime and suggesting the win wasn't as good.

    Its like saying Kevin McBdide Ko'd Tyson faster than Holyfield or Lennox Lewis. No need to reply further....
     
  6. mcvey

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    Vitali's opposition was pretty dire .
    Briggs unranked by Ring
    Sosnowski unranked
    Williams unranked
    K Johnson unranked
    Chisora unranked
    Solis unranked
    Charr unranked

    That's 7 of his last eleven defences against unranked,[ by the Ring ,] fighters.
    Of the other 4 :
    Arreola was no6
    Adamek no 4
    Gomez no9
    Peter no 7

    The highest ranked contender he defended against was therefore Adamek at no 4.
    So if we take his brother out of the equation that still leaves:
    Thompson
    Valuev
    Dimitrenko
    Chagaev
    Ibragimov
    Pulev
    Tua
    Boytsov
    Tyson
    Chambers
    Haye
    Brewster
    McCline
    As guys he somehow never got around to fight though they were ranked when he was.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    hes doing what u do, but u dont notice it when u r supporting klitschko.
     
  8. edward morbius

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    All these stats on Vitali winning rounds and the like remind me of Vince Lombardi's line--

    "Statistics are for losers."

    The bottom line with Vitali is that he lost to his only two first-rate opponents.
     
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  9. Outstock

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    Thats exactly what you're doing.

    Like saying Vitali ko'd Donald and Bowe didn't. Donald was shot to bits and fought Vitali toe-to-toe when he was stopped. He was prime , undefeated and ran all over the ring when he fought Bowe. Vitali wouldn't have stopped that version of Donald either.

    You say Vitali knocked out an older Hide in 2 rounds?? So? Joseph Chingangu destroyed Hide in the first round and it wasn't a quit job by Hide , Chingangu bombed him out of there.
     
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  10. Outstock

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    I like Mark Twain's quote - "Lies, damned lies, and statistics"
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    there are lots of fighters, that , if you read off only their fights versus bums and middlers, beat those statistics.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Name two! Vitali has the best rounds won to rounds lost ratio in boxing history among champions. I know because I have researched it, but here's your chance to prove something factual.
     
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  13. HerolGee

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    its not a case of giving names, its me telling you most good fighters have landslide wins during their bum club early years. But they tend to move on from that. Vitali rarely did.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Here's something factual.
    Of his last 11 defences only 4 were against ranked opponents ,of the remaining 4 ,none were ranked higher than number 4
     
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