Norton was inconsistant but at his best he was way better than anything Vitali beat. Name a Vitali victim who could beat Ali and arguably beat Holmes.
The Shavers win is the same as semi retired , 12 month inactive 38 y/o Sanders who the commentary called blubbery and who was breathing heavily out his mouth after a few rounds. Peter was the same Peter who got his ears boxed off by 6 foot Eddie Chambers who lacked mobility because he was at his career heaviest. https://live.staticflickr.com/4003/4597626189_1f5577bdc3.jpg Look at his barrel shaped body ^^ Admek? I remember that farce fight being announced because Vitali picked the tinest guy in the division. https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2D0GMT5/v...-andrews-poland-tags-sport-boxing-2D0GMT5.jpg Look at the size difference . Its a SHW vs a 175 pounder. Look down. Vitali is wearing socks , Admakek is wearing trainers
Vitali was dominant in all his fights and fought into his 40s. I had him well ahead vs Lewis and he probably had bad vision from the cut. I also had him well ahead vs Byrd. I also think he would of beat Wladimir at his peak if they had of fought. I consider him one of the best heavyweights all time. Who he could beat and who he would lose to from other eras is subjective. From their fight I think he would be a big problem even for a prime Lewis, which puts him in a high class hth imo.
How does losing to the two best fighters he fought make him one of the best heavyweights all time? And he was not well ahead of either Byrd or Lewis, he was marginally ahead of both.
Bruno got better at surviving as his career continued. Tyson had him in trouble at numerous points and he survived by holding and clinching. I don't care if you're serious, the footage confirms what I said: This content is protected If Bruno can frustrate a skilled, fast, accurate boxer like Tyson making it hard for him to follow up after nailing him, then Bruno can certainly frustrate the fat, sloppy, dollar store version of Tyson in Samuel Peter. I stand by what I said. I have doubts that Peter could knock out Bruno.
I had Vitali winning 5 rounds vs Lewis or at least 4. And once the cut happened his performance went downhill, the blood was getting in his eye of course. The Byrd fight he was way up in also and he was fighting with one arm for a portion of it.
Because not all wins are the same and not all loses are the same. Vitali was outclassing both Lewis and Byrd by a good margin although Lewis was 38 years old. They were not close fights.
Unbelievable how viciously Bruno is being overrated here. I bet he is something like 2-5 versus ranked guys and i'll bet he was ranked no higher than 5th himself, ever, in his own era. I loved Frank as much as anyone when I was a kid, but there is no reason really to see him as anything but decent. He needed phenomenal promotional backing to get that title win. Dillian Whyte, basically, but loveable. And not rated as high.
Well, using that criteria, then Joe Louis isn't one of the best fighters all time. Neither is George Foreman. Neither is Joe Frazier. Neither is Wlad Klitschko. Neither is Larry Holmes. Neither is Mike Tyson. And on and on and on. Fighters lose on occasion, even great ones. If you can't lose to the best fighters you ever faced, then only the guys who lost to people they "should've beaten" are the best heavyweights all time. What kind of sense does that make?
Remember Ali getting sat down by Cooper? Remember Holmes getting sat down by Spinks? Remember Norton's oft-splintered chin? I do. Sanders is a league ahead of Cooper and Spinks as a puncher, and I guarantee that if he'd get the same chance he could clean the fight up.