Vitali Klitschko Is Overrated

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  1. BCS8

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    Lewis would have slashed Bowe's face open like a can of tomatoes and the doctor would have stopped the fight in Lewis' favour before Bowe's face fell off.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    Getting those dino vibes
     
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  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say his bro is the overrated one

    After Wlad was KTFO by Corrie Sanders, Vitali exacted revenge in a brutal fashion.

    The Lewis loss was actually very impressive. Though past his best, Lewis clearly had a lot left and blasted Vitali with big right hands - and nothing happened. The gassing Lewis was somewhat fortunate the fight was stopped on a cut. Vitali was clearly going to be able to take it into the late rounds. It's not hard to envision what would have happened if Wlad was on the receiving end of those Lewis right hand bombs.
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very well said. Vitali didn't take a lot of punishment
     
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  5. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe did very little outside the Holyfield trilogy. It seems like a massive stretch to pick him against someone like Wlad who is far more proven against top level opposition.

    It would be like picking Michael Moorer over Lennox Lewis
     
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  6. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Vitali has a thin resume, confirmed to have used PEDs (as for his brother is obvious) - he's not criticized. Fury has a thin resume - he's crap. Didn't prove to be on nandrolone which is known to be detected if you consume wild boar - no, Fury is a proven PED cheater. Fury gained like 60 kilos, sunk in alcohol and drugs - no, he faked it in order not to rematch Wlad who he dominated for 10 rounds. Vitali got a knee injury - it's legit (and I am not saying it isn't). Just making a parallel for fun...
     
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  7. Joeywill

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    Wladimir Klitschko would've knocked Lewis out that night. Had Lewis been hit by a similar shot he was hit with vs Vitali, Wlad gets him out.

    Vitalis power is weak for a man of his size he doesn't have knockout power. That's why Emanuel Steward told Lennox Lewis to make it a brawl. They had no fear of Vitalis power.

    On the other hand Wladimir Klitschko has knockout power and is one of the biggest punchers in the history of boxing.
     
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  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ya I disagree
     
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  9. Redbeard7

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    Vitali let younger brother Wlad take care of Byrd for him so it's swings and roundabouts. Wlad beat the far better competition and had a much longer single reign, so he's not "unproven" as people claim Vitali is.

    Wlad and Vitali had different attributes. It's also not hard to envision what would have happened if Lewis was on the receiving end of Wlad's right hand early instead of Vitali's, who had nowhere near Wlad's speed and power. Wlad was a much harder puncher than McCall/Rahman, a harder puncher than anyone Lewis ever fought and even the closest guy (Tua? Near-Danny Williams Tyson?) was 5'9/5'10, with nowhere near the athleticism.
     
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  10. Saad54

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    I forgot Vitali also avenged Wlad's ko loss to Ross Purity.

    Vitali lost to Byrd via injured shoulder when way ahead on points.

    Meanwhile Wlad was getting KTFO by Purity, Sanders and Brewster.

    Wlad had to radically change his style into a boring jab and hold fighter because he simply wasn't durable enough.

    No, I cannot see Wlad lasting with Lewis and am very confident if the brothers were not related and fought one another Vitali would win.

    He simply was the far better catcher while having the power to hurt Wlad
     
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  11. dinovelvet

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    And? Lomachenko got shoulder surgery after losing to Lopez. He didn't want to pick a no-namer to test his arm against.. He wanted to run it straight back again with Lopez . Lopez said no so Loma fought another top 10 ranker instead.

    Every boxer carries injuries. Vitali refused to run it back with Chris Byrd. Overturning that loss was not his priority. This deserves to be addressed when evaluating his greatness , wouldn't you agree?
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    No he lost because he quit on his stool. Mickey Ward fought Gatti with busted ear drums and bursted testicle. Fighters get injured all the time. Vitali lost because he quit
     
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  13. BCS8

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    I extra disagree with you then. Lewis would have torn the flesh right off Bowe's face
     
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  14. Redbeard7

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    "Meanwhile Wlad was getting KTFO by Purity, Sanders and Brewster."

    Vitali was obviously far more durable (shock horror) but his best opponents, who he fought in or around his prime, were Byrd and Lewis and he lost to both, with a quitjob against Byrd. He wasn't as dominant against Byrd as the German cards suggested and missing the elusive Byrd (due to inferior offensive skill/athleticism than Wlad) probably caused the injury. Vitali doesn't get a pass for being injury prone, he's a fighter and it's a liability. His best win may well have been Chisora, others think it was faded versions of Peter or Sanders.

    Perhaps Vitali would have beaten Wlad on styles (though maybe not: Wlad was not a short plodder like the guys Vitali specialised in, he was way better than Byrd and he would have had a better knowledge than anyone else about Vitali's weak points injury-wise) or due to having a mental edge as the older brother but he didn't beat anywhere near the volume of good opponents that Wlad did. And there are many high level fighters who Wlad would be more likely to beat than Vitali, Usyk is a good example. If Lewis had started as slowly against Wlad as he did against Vitali, there's every chance that Wlad would have bombed him out as Vitali was slower, less accurate and a far lighter puncher.
     
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  15. Melankomas

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    Agreed, his resume is pretty bad for someone so elite.
     
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