Vitali Klitschko is running from strong opposition again.

you got me there :roll:

by the time i come back tomorrow these two are gonna have higher post counts than i do

 

King pin is as good as anyone on your list. I respect Vitali for taking another fight this year. He just beat a top prospect in Arreola. I think King pin is the best avaliable fighter out there right now. Give him a break. Just because his brother can't take a punch u should not take it out on vitali.

 

pffft, buddy if vitali were in the 70's he would be a ukranian version of bert cooper. a fighter that gets savagely beaten by all the top heavies but is praised for his granite chin and determinaion. then the role of ivan drago would be the role of rocky

 

Nikolay Valuev
Oleg Maskaev (Maskaev has beaten him in the amateurs)
Hasim Rahman (4 times)
David Tua
James Toney
Andrew Golota
Alexander Povetkin
Eddie Chambers
Odlanier Solis

What a horrible list! You actually believe any of those bums can beat him?

 

Agree. I am actually giving some credit to an average american boxing fan lately. More and more of them are realizing that Klits are a fenom which has not been matched in the past, current or will be matched in a near future. I fully expect this fact being fully recognized and acknowledged within the next 2 years, even by the most stubborn of them.

The "special" ones will still be in denial, but that's expected.

 

Last 3 guys are not that bad, but they are too green for Vitaly, and Chambers and Povetkin already contenders for Wlad's WBO and IBF.

 

I am not completely sure about this. Over in the classic forum, someone had a thread in which they broke it down and discussed the Russian amatuer heavies who might have made an impact. It was generally agreed that there were fewer than you might think- excellent commie heavies back in the day were mostly Cuban.

Of course, amatuer and professional success don't always sync, so its entirely possible that a few dark horse Russians would have got in the mix. Still, I am curious to know who some of the guys are who fans think might have beat the Ali's and Fraziers, and I probably would not be convinced even then, to be honest.

Even your example of the Klits makes little sense- apart from them, who are the other great Eastern Euro heavies? Zolkin, Ibragimov, Chageav, Maskaev, Golota, Valuev, Lyakovich- not exactly Ali, Frazier, Foreman, and Liston, are they? I have big hopes for both Povetkin and Boytsov, but I am the first to admit that they have done nothing yet to show that they are or could be at the Klit's level.

Don't get me wrong about any of this, I really appreciate that we have the East Euro's to add some life to the division- and I know that a lot of them are quite good. But outside of the Klits, they just have not yet been to the level to where I would put them in there with the greats.

 

:good:good:good:good

 

What a crock of ****. Amazing to me how you list guys that Vitali should fight, yet 1/2 of them are about to fight or will be fighting soon yet you have the balls to say vitali is running from them

your an idiot. Pick another sport to be a fan of because you dont know **** about boxing:hi:

 

This is ridiculous. From that list, Chambers and Povetkin are the only ones who have a shot at actually beating Klitschko. The others would get beaten badly by either Klitschko. I agree that Vitali's resume is weak, but it's the result of this being a weak division and the brothers' unwillingness to fight each other.

The quote about Toney is true, that doesn't mean he's running from Toney.

 

I totally agree on both point... especially about him being a troll:yep

 

Vlad will be fighting Chambers next, then Povetkin, who beat Chambers. Vitali is beating the best out there at this time. Haye ran from Vlad and then Vitali. Vitali and Vlad are both cleaning out the heavyweight division.

 

AWESOME:good Angry guy works for you!

At least he left Shannon Briggs off his/her list.

 

Vitali is fighting the best he can find. Vitali runs from nobody. Hell, he has tried to get fight with Valouev for a long time now. Haye ran like Hell, etc.

 

Soviet AMATEUR boxing program did not hit full stride until the mid 70's. They did not even start a program until the late 50's. So in around a decade and a half they went from non participants to a World power. Great accomplishment as far as I am concerned. Rest assured if the Soviets primary goal was success in Professional boxing then success would have surely followed.

They had no problems surpassing the U.S. in several sports that they dominated, not the least of which were wrestling and weightlifting so why is it so unreasonable to assume that Professional boxing would not have followed?

Many fight historians agree the the great Cuban heavyweight Stevenson would have been a major factor as a Professional heavyweight, however he was not even dominant over the best Soviet heavyweights.

Granted Stevenson won more than he lost against Soviet opposition but they were competitive bouts. For instance he went 5-3 all time against Vysotsky and suffered the only KO in the series, at home in a Havanna.

Strong Eastern European men seem to threaten the World order/view of many. Particularly fans of the NFL and NBA.:hey

Incidentially they also beat the U.S. in basketaball during the 70's.