I actually credit the Gonzalez win as a good one for Bowe. I can understand the criticisms about his career going to hell after that bout and how in hindsight he wasn't a very good fighter.. But that shouldn't change the perception of what or who he was at the time.. For all his shortcomings, Jorge Luis Gonzalez was a highly celebrated amateur who defeated such future notables as Biggs, Lewis and Bowe before they were all pros. He started his professional career 23-0. Granted his opposition was poor but he certainly looked menacing in dispatching those men. With all this being said, the same courtesy should be extended to Solis who was an equally or better accomplished amateur than Gonzalez and was undefeated and ranked going into his fight with Vitali.
THE RING RATINGS - As of Aug. 31, 2009 Heavyweight Limit: none CHAMPION: Wladimir Klitschko Country: Ukraine Record: 53-3-0 (47 KOs) Ranking: This Week: C | Last Week: C | Weeks On List: 223 Titles: IBF, WBO 1. Vitali Klitschko Country: Ukraine Record: 37-2-0 (36 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 47 Titles: WBC 2. Alexander Povetkin Country: Russia Record: 17-0-0 (12 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 97 3. Eddie Chambers Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.) Record: 35-1-0 (18 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 23 4. Ruslan Chagaev Country: Germany Record: 25-1-1 (17 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 146 5. Nikolai Valuev Country: Russia Record: 50-1-0 (34 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 194 Titles: WBA 6. Chris Arreola Country: USA (Riverside, Calif.) Record: 27-0-0 (24 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 24 7. David Haye Country: England (London) Record: 22-1-0 (21 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 24 8. John Ruiz Country: USA (Chelsea, Mass.) Record: 43-8-1 (29 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 23 9. Denis Boytsov Country: Germany (Hamburg) Record: 25-0-0 (20 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 11 10. Alexander Dimitrenko Country: Ukraine Record: 29-1-0 (19 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 42
THE RING RATINGS - As of Sept. 6, 2009 Heavyweight Limit: none CHAMPION: Wladimir Klitschko Country: Ukraine Record: 53-3-0 (47 KOs) Ranking: This Week: C | Last Week: C | Weeks On List: 224 Titles: IBF, WBO 1. Vitali Klitschko Country: Ukraine Record: 37-2-0 (36 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 48 Titles: WBC 2. Alexander Povetkin Country: Russia Record: 17-0-0 (12 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 98 3. Eddie Chambers Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.) Record: 35-1-0 (18 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 24 4. Ruslan Chagaev Country: Germany Record: 25-1-1 (17 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 147 5. Nikolai Valuev Country: Russia Record: 50-1-0 (34 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 195 Titles: WBA 6. Chris Arreola Country: USA (Riverside, Calif.) Record: 27-0-0 (24 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 25 7. David Haye Country: England (London) Record: 22-1-0 (21 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 25 8. Denis Boytsov Country: Germany (Hamburg) Record: 25-0-0 (20 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 12 9. Alexander Dimitrenko Country: Ukraine Record: 29-1-0 (19 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 43 10. Kevin Johnson Country: USA (Atlanta, Ga.) Record: 21-0-1 (8 KOs) Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1
Okay two weeks, he's been stuffed by ancient monument Tony Thompson twice , beaten nobody and at 36 isn't likely to. ps Thanks for the link.
He was good enough for you to have spent a significant amount of time fretting over him years after his retirement.
Gonzalez was 23-0-0 and had Renaldo Snipes as a scalp . Solis was 17-0-0 and had who, Montell Barrett?
see, I'm not actually saying what he IS, I am saying that the evidence the OP gave tells you what he is rather than what he isn't.
I've made five posts in this thread till now. How many you made? yeh - don't throw stones in your glasshouse. And also - excuse me but to not put too fine a point on it, please LEARN 2 READ WHAT IS WRITTEN BEFORE U ANSWER IT with an ultra defensive kliturd knee jerk reaction.
Snipes had not lost a fight in the previous 5 and a half years. Barrett had been stopped by David Haye in his last fight, and had won 3 of his last 7 fights. Austin was 40 years old!atsch Desperate.
In all fairness, Snipes was a shadow of his former self. He admitted later all the usual stuff, couldn't pull the trigger, saw the openings but couldn't reach them...