I don't. I like the way they carry themselves out of the ring and they were always in shape inside it. I don't like the fact that they both had return clauses in the contracts for their title defences, stipulating that should they lose ,their conquerors had to defend against them or an opponent of their choice [brother], for K2. Five of Vitali's challengers were either well past it or hyped nobodies ,or both. Solis Charr Sosnowski Williams Were never world class. Briggs was a relic. None of them did jack sh*t after fighting Vitali, and ,apart from Briggs a decade previously, none had done anything of real note before challenging for the crown.
We both know that a large part of your adult identity exists as an internet persona that bashes the klitschkos. Your "five post" comment is ridiculous. You've poured at least hundreds of hours into this pursuit already. And I don't really read your posts so you've got me there.
You're the one who started it. Don't get mad because you're getting put in your place. Snipes was a decade removed from his last good win. Austin at least drew with Iggy and beat an aging Golota fairly recently before the Solis fight. But obviously that's a side note. Solis had more potential than Gonzales because Gonzales didn't adapt his style to pros. He was a worse am on top of it.
I started nothing and I'm not mad about anything, I'm just correcting your silly remarks about Snipes who had not lost a fight in 5.5years, and your comparisons to a shot Barrett and Austin. Solis did jack sh*t as a pro and at 36 he won't! Gonzalez had real power and he beat a still relevant Snipes. What either did in the amateurs is irrelevant . You couldn't put me in my place if I was tied up and blindfolded ,you're just an immature fan boy who refuses to comprehend stone facts.
There are some brain dead people here who think Johnson and Solis were not ranked in the top ten when Vitali beat them. They were.
I would not call anyone in the top ten a weak defense. Like I told you Solis, Arreola, and Johnson was ranked, and undefeated when Vitali fought them in title matches. 50% you say? BUZZ....WRONG!:hi: A weak title defense would be any number of Jack Johnson's. If you want to use a much better fighter, say Muhammad Ali some if his title choices would get crushed by the likes of Solis, Arreola, or Johnson. How about we look at some of them: Jean-Pierre Coopman, pretty much a bad journeyman. Richard Dunn 33-9! Chuck Wepner 30-9-2! Brian London 34-14! Now, McVey, those are weak title defenses, well below the types Vitali gave title shots too.:deal
So point him out in the table because i can't see him. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2008 Solis spent all of a week in the top 10 before he fought Vitali. His spot was most likely bought to justify the cherry pick. When you look at he table from 08 -12 , you will see a list of recurring names. Vitali fought NONE of them bar two. aNDY rUIZ jr is in the top 10 now. What would beating him do for any one? Face it. Vitali has a record barely worthy of a spot in the hall of fame. ATG? = :nut
Fool, the fight took place in 2011! Solis was 30, Vitali age 39! The 2008 rankings meaning nothing here, except to show that Vitali fought two of those men. From 2008-2012 Vitali fought FOUR men ranked in the annual ratings, not two as you claim.atsch They were Gomez, Peter, Areola, and Adamek, but keep in mind those are annual ratings. Solis was ranked in the top ten when Vitali beat him. By contrast, Wilder hasn't defended his title vs one man in the top ten, and he's had 4 title defenses!
Gonzalez had power? Did you ever see how Solis put Barrett away? Same guy who beat Tua. Gonzalez had zero defense for an overhand right. It was embarrassing. And Snipes was beating guys with losing records. He was a nonfactor in the 90s.
I was talking about the Kingpin dummy. You've tried to pass all of Vitali's defenses off as top 10'ers. Even Chisoraatsch
I never mentioned either Arreola or Johnson,still having trouble comprehending? BothWepner and London were ranked at the time so that, by your criteria excludes them, Ali took on Coopman immediately after the Thrilla In Manilla and any objective poster would cut him slack for that one. The Dunn defence was less than a month after Ali had beaten Jimmy Young and immediately before the Norton fight,Ali was fighting on average every 2 months should he fight have fought a Foreman ,Norton,or a Frazier every time? You're absurd. You knock every black heavyweight champion and it's blatantly obvious why. I was wondering when Jack Johnson would make his entrance and get bashed ,did he f8ck your ,great, great granny?:think Ali also has defences against: Frazier Liston Lyle Terrell Patterson Bugner Norton Shavers Young In between softer ones. If Ali were white you would know how to spell his name ,[ Muhamed!]atsch and be licking his wedding tackle at every opportunity!