Vitali Klitschko vs “The Golden era”? Contenders?

Norton has a decent shot due to styles, Vitali is difficult for any heavyweight in history but he is a bit overrated. I'll stand on that

 

70's heavyweights are possibly over-romanticized by some. But i didn't know the Klitschko's had their own two-man issue of fantasizing.. pumping up Purrity now?

 

Following up on this --

Quite sincerely, if you think it's medically ridiculous to believe that Byrd caused rotator cuff injuries with evasiveness and such, I'd be all ears. I know you work in a health related field and know your stuff.

I don't find the absence of film of the injury very compelling, since we don't have pinpointed timestamps of all sorts of injuries. But although it may seem odd to say so, I trust your instincts here more than your stated arguments.

 

I tore something in my should that I assume was my rotator cuff years back. I did it sliding head first into a base and my hand kind of got stuck on middle of the base. Throwing baseballs, footballs, and punches never did anything bad to my shoulder.

Here’s a classic shoulder injury:

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Korbov lands a weird punch and tears up his shoulder. The point of contact causes the ligaments to jam up. That’s what I think of when I hear about shoulder injuries, not missed punches.

 

It'll go the way of Marciano fandom eventually.

 

Regardless of what did or didn't cause Vitali’s shoulder injury.

Vitali said there was nothing wrong with his shoulder prior to the Byrd fight he said that in a post fight interview.

So the injury did occur primarily from fighting Byrd the cause of the exact reason is up for debate.

But regardless Vitali did not pursue a rematch despite Byrd being higher ranked than any opponent Vitali beat prior to semi retiring.

There's no reason for Vitali not fighting Byrd between 2001-2004 if he was that confident of winning a rematch.

 

Knew you wouldn't find it.

 

Eubanks lost to George Groves whose arm was literally dangling and flopping by his side. Both Korbov and Groves had visible injuries. You could see the pain they were in and the moment injury occurred.

These cases are not the same. Nobody ringside had any clue Vitali was injured until he quit. There's no point in that fight where he looks injured or any point where he suffered an injury.

Furthermore , Korbov didn't return till a year later.

Groves being in the final of the super 6 had no choice but to go into the Smith fight fresh off surgery. Everybody knew at the time he was handicapped going to that fight. Smith knocked him into an early retirement.

https://talksport.com/boxing/426961...eries-final-more-painful-carl-froch-knockout/


Vitali made a quick comeback against Timmo Hoffman. Nothing wrong with him. He simply quit and ducked the rematch with Byrd. Nothing more to it that that.

 

But you can't disprove it either ? Nor have you come up with any good case why Vitali wouldn't rematch Byrd who would be the best win of his career ? And who was higher ranked than any of Vitali’s wins before his semi retirement ?

But I suppose Danny Williams, Timo Hoffman, Ross Puritty, Larry Donald, 40 year old Vaughn Bean, Orlin Norris, are better than top 3 ranked belt holder Chris Byrd ?

 

I’m the only one in this thread who provided a video showing a shoulder injury in a boxing match and explained the mechanics of the injury.

1-0 Noneck

 

So showing a different fight entirely to the one we are discussing is evidence ? I don't think so.

You also haven't provided any good arguments as to why Vitali didn't pursue a rematch vs Byrd but instead fought alot of far lesser opposition like the names I provided above as context.

Forget the shoulder injury for a second the question is why didn't Vitali fight Byrd between 2001-2004 who would've been the best win of his career and would've done alot for his legacy.

 

Ali is considered the heavyweight GOAT by the majority and Frazier and Foreman usually in the Top 10 by most people here so it will definitely take a heck of a long time for that to even be possible.

 

Byrd got his ass kicked by Wlad. It’s like asking why Tyson didn’t pursue Douglas after Holyfield. Vitali acquitted himself against Lewis, which was a much more noble route than pawing around for a ud against Byrd and giving Don King options.