Vitali Klitschko vs Deontay Wilder

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Vitali Klitschko vs Deontay Wilder

  1. Vitali By PTS

    4.2%
  2. Vitali By KO/TKO

    72.9%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Wilder By PTS

    2.1%
  5. Wilder By KO/TKO

    20.8%
  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Could go either way , i really can't envision a clear winner.

    If Vitali winning is such a certainty , then it should be easy to provide an example of a guy he beat who was as fast ,rangy , explosive and heavy handed as Wilder. The guys Vitali beat don't say much about how he'd do against a guy with much longer reach and with much quicker hands.
    Vitali doesn't move his head , has no upperbody movement , keeps his hands down by his waist and punches up from his waist with his chin in the air.
    You don't need to be an expert analyst to see that open defense style would be troublesome against a fast shapshooting Wilder. Vital is wide open to a 1-2 down the middle , the kind of shots Wilder gets through with in every fight.

    Fury who is a multi dimensional mover with excellent upper body defense who took Wilders tools away for most of the fight , but Vitali has none of Furys defensive maneuvers so its hard to see Wilder hitting him whenever he lets his hands go.

    Vitali would have to rely exclusively on his offence to keep Wilder on the outside , which is possible , but his resume is just too thin to know for sure how he deals with the speed and range.
    If he couldn't get out of the way against Lewis slow and sloppy shots then how would he avoid Wilders?
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitally Klitschko used to be over rated once!
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I'm surprised so many people are going for Wilder here. I'm no big fan of Vitali; in fact his hardcore fans put me off him for years. But the idea he loses to a crude flapper like Deontay is ludicrous.

    Vitali might not be particularly fast but neither was Gerald Washington, and he easily outboxed Wilder for four and a half rounds with nothing but a rudimentary jab and decent command of distance. Vitali would jab and pummel Wilder all night long with his slow but well-timed arm punches and sway out of the way of any incoming fire. The jab alone would see Wilder badly whiffing his shots and being knocked off balance, probably stunned on multiple occasions and forced to shell up. If Vitali decides to go to the body Wilder's in big trouble. A straight right to the solar plexus against the ropes would break Wilder in half.

    Wilder might get through here and there, but I think Vitali is tough enough to take anything Wilder lands with minimal ill effects. Duhaupas did.
     
  4. BCS8

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    He's fought 2 fighters worthy of the name and is 1-0-1. You're right, his career has only begun. He's going to get a lot of L's.
     
  5. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Vitali would get his first body on his record...
     
  6. Ike-Man

    Ike-Man Active Member Full Member

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    1-1-0 in reality.
     
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  7. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm trying to work out which opponent represents the '1' in the 'W' column...
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    both videos display massive bumclubs. this isnt a good way to cobtrast them its more of a comparison.
     
  9. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    We ought to cobtrast Herol with a cob of corn. I say there's not much difference.
     
  10. BCS8

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    That's Ortiz. I think Ortiz is pretty useful and that he'd give a lot of people something to think about. He probably would have finished Wilder off if he'd been 5 years younger.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    heres one, or u with a nut.
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Despite showing some promise and being rated, Ortiz is relatively unproven in the pro ranks. His age and conditioning level were highlighted against a younger more athletic opponent in Wilder. He was well beyond being prime, which is no surprise, at 39 years old.

    I'd expect a 5-years-younger Ortiz to do better, as well, and perhaps finish Wilder but, as it stands, Wilder faced a plodding old man, whose ship had already sailed, in my opinion. I'm not sure I'd consider him a world class opponent for Wilder.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    I'd say that Ortiz is a bit better than you make him out to be ... but ... I can't really argue with most of the points you made.