Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

Your comment that Holyfield never beat anybody as good as Sanders is not even worth addressing. Completely ridiculous.

You keep bringing up names Holyfield fought when he was over 40. For Christ sake, we are talking Prime Holyfield here.

 

Fair enough,I could add more, but why spoil a beautiful friendship Louie?

 

You are attracted to a Klitschko thread like a mealworm to spent oats. And always with the same take. So predictable that it is not really a response at all. Perhaps, a taste of your own advice is in order.

BTW, if you look at my initial statement you will see that I believe Holy would be a favorite, and that the numbers would be good in his favor, making it potentially a very good betting situation, as Vit would be a very live underdog.

 

My thoughts on Vitali's offense as well ,, I don't think Vitali reacts well with a guy pressuring him constantly, he folds late

 

Erm , your initial statement was that Vitali was consistent while Vander wasn't so you would favor Vitali for that reason. I pointed out that Vitali has a 100% loss rate against top opponents and was only consistent against guys that would be classed as C-level. Holy is an A+ level HW and has wins over other A level HWs.
Arguing for Vitali is like arguing for a division 1 football team to beat a premiership team. For example Ipswich Town vs Man City.
Its about evaluating the intangibles.

 

This is Evander's to lose.

Vitali didn't show me anything that would have me consider him near the same level as a prime Holyfield.

Holyfield's aggression; the variety in his armory, delivered with speed and tenacity - all too much for VK, in my opinion.

 

Vitali literally sits this one out and quits on his stool around the 10th

 

Vitali beats Holyfield. He is bigger and tougher and will impose himself. Moreover, he has a good defence and is able to use his size to make smaller fighters miss. Sure, Holyfield is a junkyard dog and will make Vitali work for the win, but Holy found ways to lose to much lesser fighters than Vitali.

 

Prime Holyfield doesn't have the power to get Vitlay out of there. Not that he needs overwhelming power but it helps.

Holyfield fought everyone. Vitlay did not, and nobody on Holy's level besides Lennox and Byrd. But Byrd was slick and Lennox had the size and power to brawl with someone taller than himself. Those fights showed flaws to his inside game.

Both have tremendous chins. Sorry guys, but that's all I got.

50/50 fight for me but I might lean towards Vitlay, so 51/49 for sure.

 

In many fight Holyfield isn't aggressive. The guy gasses quicker than hi fans admit. More of a temp fighter than anti tempo fighter. Also dirty, and on PED's. The reason lesser fighter beat Holyfield so often is, he wasn't that good period. Full of excuses too.

 

I Was talking bout a prime Wlad, not Sanders. Sanders bet a prime Wlad. Did Holyfield bet anyone as good as that?

 

But Vitali never even fought Wlad! Your argument is weird.Then I could ague that Rahman beat Sanders and Holyfield beat Rahman. Which would be weird too.

Vitali just does not have a very good wins on his record. I am not sure why ou try to debate this point over and over.

 

Which guy who pressured him was ever ahead on the score cards? Some tried, and they quickly stopped once hit or got KO'd early.

 

That was pre prime Wlad actually. He didn't reach his until he was well into his 30s.