Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, because Johnson went in to his Vitali match, in tip-top shape as well, didn't he?

    :lol:
     
  2. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Just watch the movie! I don't care at all if you trust, several have pointed it here that he told it and this film/ documentation is free available. So you could probably find it on you own, if you know how internet search is working...
     
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  3. dinovelvet

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    Do you deny that Byrd said Oquendo had the best defence?
     
  4. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    He was very focused and determined, as he went all-out and would have stopped most heavyweights there, including Wladimir Klitschko.
    But the point is not the shape, but how he was able to avoid all of these wild haymakers which were thrown in the first round and partly the second; he even binged his knee to land a boypunch and knocking Johnson down, who was only here really defeated and was top 5.
     
  5. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    I don't deny anything, but I maintained since some weeks here, he said that nobody was as hard to get hit as Vitaly Klitschko, from who he faced and this interview was after Oquendo I think. As I just repeat what I have heard out of his mouth.
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're going to have to provide a source for that claim otherwise it never happened.
     
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  7. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    I did if you are able to read; it is on film; named Klitschko The Film. This is over one decade old. So it should be easy for everyone to find.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    You're a guy who says Vitali beat a slicker boxer than Byrd called "Magee". . What Byrd said in that picture could be completely different to what you are claiming he said.
     
  9. Man_Machine

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    Haymakers are only useful if they're fast and accurate enough to connect in the first place. Johnson's weren't.

    Johnson's legs stopped working in the second round. Zero lateral movement, as he became a static target.

    All Vitali had to do was step and lean back to avoid Johnson's 'telegraphed yesterday' punches.

    Had Johnson been in better shape and looked liked he'd trained a bit, he might have made a better fight of it. As it was, he was at his career heaviest and looked it.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Don't expect much when talking to Dunning. Byrd himself during the fight told his corner, you try to land the right hand on Vitali. He was behind big time on all three score cards and surprised he won.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    He lasted 2 rounds. Could not take Vitlai's power or aggressiveness.
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

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    he showed up like a whale.a total disgrace
     
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  13. Mendoza

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    And he was put down quickly. It's not like Vitali was floored or rocked, which is what happened to Holyfield vs Bert Cooper who wasn't exactly in shape either or close to the caliber of Johnson.
     
  14. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Cooper actually was in good shape vs Holyfield he had scored a big win over Joe Hipp about a month prior and came in at 215 which was a good weight for him. Much like Ruiz coming into the first fight with Joshua after having just fought recently. Cooper Who I’ve seen you on occasion mention his fight with Sanders for example weighed in the 240’s vs Sanders. He had quite a bit of time to prepare for Michael Moorer and weighed 225. At 215 Cooper was in shape if he wasn’t he wouldn’t have been able to take that battering for seven rounds
     
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  15. Man_Machine

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    No - he didn't.


    He could not move, more like.


    Anybody with a dig would have had him out of there in no time. Johnson turned up to be beat.

    Vitali did what he had to do, but his performance was not particularly special.
     
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