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Excellent post. I pick Holyfield by KO in the later rounds. He is a slightly better class than Vitali and a lot better than any of Vitali's option, even though Vitali might sneak a win in a trilogy. I didnt say anything to contradict this ealier on this thread did i?
Ha ha ha, told by a guy who hates Klitschko, who decided to sit out of the tough questions, and throw stones later from his glass house. The highlights were Holyfield fans offering all type of excuses, failing to acknowledged he was a big time PED loser, some claiming he drew vs Lewis fairly, ignoring the fact that Ruiz beat him in their first fight, ignoring the fact that he has match up issues vs skilled bigger men ( Bow and Lewis 1-4 on fiar score cards ) ignoring the fact that Vitali did way better vs common opponents beaten in Bean and Donald, ect... Brushing off his 1-1 vs Moorer, he floored and trouble moment v Bert Cooper, etc... Vitlai would beat him. Holyfield lost more round to Ruiz that italii did in his career! Also discusses was no re-match vs Byrd or Lewis, which Lewis clearly ducked out of
The fact is that your case was so weak that you had to bring up issues with little or no relevance to the thread. For intance fights where Holyfield was past his prime (the Ruiz fights) or a potential PED use or fights Holyfield even won (against opponents like Copper which bear no stylistice resemblance with the Vitali matchup )
Thats because his winning record consistis of C- levellers and guys way past prime who didn't even train for the fight which was the case for Sanders. Louis Ortiz didn't lose a round to Bryant Jenner..Byrant would be one of Vitali's best victories. Also a reminder that Vitali avoided the Byrd rematch.. A topic you have ducked at least 5-6 times in this thread.. lol. Holyfield losing to Toney isn't as bad as quitting against Byrd and then avoiding the rematch. Go take a look at how many top guys Holyfield remached.
Hahaha, the fact is I'm using facts and you have hardly an answer for the. You the only one here who thinks Holyfield dew with Lewis You used to say Holyfield beat him, then uses a score card with multiple 10-10 rounds giving the close ones to Holfyield to product a draw that people laugh at. On Cooper, Vitali hit harder. He had an active Jab like Bowe ,Moorer and Lewis which Holyfield could not solve, Vitlai was far more constant As I said before on fair scorecards 1-4 vs Bowe and Lewis. 1-1 vs Moorer, cut vs an old Holmes, Rocked by the old Foreman, down vs Bert Cooper, looked terrible vs Vaughn Bean. Officially 1-1-1 vs Ruiz, but we all known Holyfield official win in the first place was a bad decision. Yeah he beat a post Prison Tyson. Vitali was scheduled to face Tyson, but Williams beat him so that was the replacement. Do not ignore Holyfield transformation on PED's, without them he wouldn't be where he was. Here let me help you some. See what ROIDS, a bio lab and the popularity to offer big purses to clean fighters willing to ignore this can do? To all Copy and past the below link. Its shocking. This content is protected https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7cba66789e7e26822c95eb50fa6407bf
Your facts have proven to have no relevance. Cooper clipped Holyfield on the inside and Vitali can't fight at all on the inside. Like I said, this fight has no relevance. As for your argument about resume, almost everybody here agrees Hoylfield has the better resume. So that point goes out as well. What is left is some wild speculation about Ped use which have little relevance. So in all in all, another one of your posts with a lot of side shows and no substance
Tbf my initial thought was Vitali is too big, too tough and strong for Holyfield but stylistically I think Evander gives him problems, he’d get straight on Vitalis chest and go to work, interesting fight but I’d make Vitali a slight favourite
That's right a fringe contender to use your words clipped Holyfield, and our hurt him in his prime. Holyfield as I pointed out lost to Moorer, got thumped badly by Bowe, and should have lost the first Ruiz match on points. He looked poor vs Bean and Donald, fighters Klitschko easily beat. The bean match happened in his prime. There is no wild speculation on PED abuse for Holyfield, its well know Blade. Also Vitali can in-fight if he chooses, your observation that he can't fight at all is false, just like many of your points and scorecards. Holyfield = 1-4 vs. Bowe and Lewis on fair score cards, was taken to task by Moorer and looked mediocre and suspect along the way. Old man Holmes cut him. He's not beating Klitschko.
Holyfield's resume shits all over Vitali's.That's why he was a real champ, not a WBO imposter. Holyfield was a month off 36 when he beat Bean. Here are the score cards Judge: Duane Ford 111-116 Judge: Al DeVito 110-117 Judge: Leroy Brown 110-117 Unanimous decision. He was a month from 42 when Donald beat him. As usual you're full of it!