Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats because his winning record consistis of C- levellers and guys way past prime who didn't even train for the fight which was the case for Sanders.
    Louis Ortiz didn't lose a round to Bryant Jenner..Byrant would be one of Vitali's best victories.

    Also a reminder that Vitali avoided the Byrd rematch.. A topic you have ducked at least 5-6 times in this thread.. lol.

    Holyfield losing to Toney isn't as bad as quitting against Byrd and then avoiding the rematch. Go take a look at how many top guys Holyfield remached.
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Hahaha, the fact is I'm using facts and you have hardly an answer for the. You the only one here who thinks Holyfield dew with Lewis You used to say Holyfield beat him, then uses a score card with multiple 10-10 rounds giving the close ones to Holfyield to product a draw that people laugh at.

    On Cooper, Vitali hit harder. He had an active Jab like Bowe ,Moorer and Lewis which Holyfield could not solve, Vitlai was far more constant As I said before on fair scorecards 1-4 vs Bowe and Lewis. 1-1 vs Moorer, cut vs an old Holmes, Rocked by the old Foreman, down vs Bert Cooper, looked terrible vs Vaughn Bean. Officially 1-1-1 vs Ruiz, but we all known Holyfield official win in the first place was a bad decision.

    Yeah he beat a post Prison Tyson. Vitali was scheduled to face Tyson, but Williams beat him so that was the replacement.

    Do not ignore Holyfield transformation on PED's, without them he wouldn't be where he was.

    Here let me help you some. See what ROIDS, a bio lab and the popularity to offer big purses to clean fighters willing to ignore this can do? To all Copy and past the below link. Its shocking.


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  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your facts have proven to have no relevance. Cooper clipped Holyfield on the inside and Vitali can't fight at all on the inside. Like I said, this fight has no relevance. As for your argument about resume, almost everybody here agrees Hoylfield has the better resume. So that point goes out as well. What is left is some wild speculation about Ped use which have little relevance. So in all in all, another one of your posts with a lot of side shows and no substance
     
  4. WAR01

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  5. Guru88

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    Tbf my initial thought was Vitali is too big, too tough and strong for Holyfield but stylistically I think Evander gives him problems, he’d get straight on Vitalis chest and go to work, interesting fight but I’d make Vitali a slight favourite
     
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  6. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Rise my pet...
     
  7. Mendoza

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    That's right a fringe contender to use your words clipped Holyfield, and our hurt him in his prime. Holyfield as I pointed out lost to Moorer, got thumped badly by Bowe, and should have lost the first Ruiz match on points. He looked poor vs Bean and Donald, fighters Klitschko easily beat. The bean match happened in his prime.

    There is no wild speculation on PED abuse for Holyfield, its well know Blade.

    Also Vitali can in-fight if he chooses, your observation that he can't fight at all is false, just like many of your points and scorecards.

    Holyfield = 1-4 vs. Bowe and Lewis on fair score cards, was taken to task by Moorer and looked mediocre and suspect along the way. Old man Holmes cut him. He's not beating Klitschko.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Holyfield's resume ****s all over Vitali's.That's why he was a real champ, not a WBO imposter.
    Holyfield was a month off 36 when he beat Bean.
    Here are the score cards
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    Unanimous decision.

    He was a month from 42 when Donald beat him.
    As usual you're full of it!
     
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  9. WAR01

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    Let’s just bump this while we’re on a streak.
     
  10. BCS8

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  11. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    This is exactly how I see it
     
  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Vitali's size would be the determining factor. Just like Bowe-Holyfield I: both men were easily at the top of their career-long games during that fight; it was entirely about the just-that-day-an-ATG big man beating the (overall greater) ATG smaller man (though of course that doesn't always apply).

    Vitali doesn't look so great the first four rounds, after that Holy starts getting caught by nasty stuff.
     
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  13. Balder

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    Vitali in a great fight in which Holyfileds heart is on display while going down to certain defeat. Holyfiled will stand and give as good as he gets and perhaps a little better for the first few rounds. But, Vitali eventually gets in rythm and grinds him down. Holyfiled is an ATG but Vitali is his bridge to far.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

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    That is quite a statement considering Vitali lost against short notice Byrd and fat/old Lews. Not to mention that Vital's best win was who?
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Vitali should have beaten the tar out of Toney. Then you'd drop some respect on the name ;)