Vitali Klitschko vs. Hasim Rahman, 2005, who wins?

As I recall it the WBC turned down Vitali-Brock, due to the fact that his mandatory with rahman was overdue, thanks to Vitalis injury lay offs...( I guess King pressed a little bit as well).

 

If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times.....Klit fans don't want to know the truth because it changes the perception of their reality. Nice job teaching BadPuppy something Im sure he wishes he didn't know. :good

 

Here's a snippet from an interview with Brock and his advisor about the fight vs. Vitali:

Some more info in the full interview from Kathy Duva: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/weblog/news.php?p=4098&more=1

Obviously, take anything from these promoters with a grain of salt. This is Brock's guys and of course they're saying how the WBC is okay with the fight. They were just talking their book, just like Don King does when he opens his mouth.

 

You guys love to try and rewrite history.

Here's reality....

The fight was rescheduled a couple times due to injuries suffered by Vitali. Vitali had let it be known that he woud be recovered from the back injury in time for a late August/early Sept fight against Rahman. That's when the greedy WBC decided to make an "interim" title fight between Rahman an Barrett in August. So, Vitali asked the WBC if he could take a voluntary fight against Maskaev (Brock also rumored) for Sept. Because it was already clear that with Rahman fighting in August, that the Rahman/Klitschko fight wouldn't take place until months later. Also, there was nothing to say that Barrett wouldn't beat Rahman in that fight to begin with.

Anyways... the WBC rejected that fight.... Vitali followed their orders and waited until after that fight... and scheduled his fight with Rahman. Then, a week out from their fight Vitali tore his ACL and his MCL. He wanted to fight so bad that he tried to wear a special brace, but his leg was giving out on him when he tried to spar afterward. He went to a well respected Doctor (the same doctor who has since worked on the knees of Tom Brady and Georges St. Pierre) who performed surgery on Vitali's knee and said there is no way possible that his knee would have been stable enough for a boxing match.

Doctor gave Vitali a minimum of 6 months to recover from the surgery/injury. However, the WBC only gave Vitali 3 months to fight Rahman. Clearly, that was never going to happen. Vitali retired at that point.

Sorry, but it was Lennox Lewis who retired only a couple days after the WBC ordered that he fight Vitali.:yep

 

Rahman has a punchers chance as he would against anyone.

But vitali has to be a favourite here. Mid round stoppage is most likely.

 

Ha ha..You are the one rewriting history, Widdow! Vitali somehow was scared shitless of Rahman and tried everything to avoid fighting him...If he could fight after 6 months recovery, why didnt he step back to become champion emeritus( I think thats the name) To come back and fight the one who held the belt as soon as he was fit to...No, he stayed the **** out for the next three years...Come on!!
And why bring LL in to the story? He smashed Vitalis face...Tko 6!

 

Why did Vitali have multiple surgeries then? He could just have retired on the spot if all he wanted was to avoid Rahman. I remember seeing pics of him in a California hospital I believe. You're saying those surgeries were staged and were just performed to avoid Rahman?

Sounds a little far fetched.

IMO those injuries were genuine, Vitali and Bonte are far too money-conscious to run away from a big payday vs. Rahman. In the end Vitali lost a ton of money due to the surgeries and his four years off. Rahman deserved his shot though and King did the right thing with pushing for the interim bout; they had to protect their own interests.

 

Off course he was injured to some extent, But why didnt he take time to recover and then come back and smash Rahman( Which I am sure he would do).Instead of hiding away for 3 years?

 

I agree with you, he could have and probably should have done that in hindsight. I think there were a number of unrelated injuries occurring one after another (spine, knee) and Vitali eventually had the impression that his 'body was falling apart', I believe that's the term he used in his retirement press release.

Either way, it is what it is. I wouldn't be surprised if years of kickboxing messed up his skeleton from top to bottom.

 

Well I think Vitali was more scared of his own body then Rahman. It had failed on him once before and had created the notion that he was a quitter etc. His plan was to get in the ring as soon as possible but a surgery can lead to many other medical problems. Rehabilitation is hard work and immensely boring. After multiple surgeries your body is in a state of total mess. Muscular balance is ****ed, scar tissue give you problems, you are in pain every day so the idea of getting in the ring to slug it out seems the most stupid thing you could do. Best thing is to begin from scratch and try to heal before anything....His recovery was amazing to me, he had somehow managed to deal with these problems and resumed to be one of the best, but his ATG potential walked out on him with these prime years.

 

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And I would not lost my respect.

This should have been the right way, the way of a Champion.

Vacate the title and after recovering made a comeback fight, maybe an eliminator and than fight again for the WBC.

 

Ah and by that logic your hero Wlad should also have retired after canceling twice in a row for being 'injured' vs. Chisora? I know Chisora wasn't mandatory but still, enough with the double standards :hi:

 

Chisora was not a mandatory, that´s a difference. Wlad choice!!!!! to fight him. Than Wlad was injured and canceled the fight but not 7 times!!!

Wlad fought David Haye, a much more and better fight.

Vitali had to fight Rahman. If he did fight another Champion I would not have any problem with not fighting Rahman and make his mandatory by unification.

Wladimir does not retire and comes back after avoiding a mandatory.

 

Vitali canceled four times not two. Two is a bit bad, four is horrendous. It is also highly suspicious .What athlete injuries himself four times in a year?
Even Fernando Torres and Robin Van Persie don't injure themselves four times in a single season and they both got glass knees.

Vitali's cancellations imo have every bit as much to do with his alleged steroid abuse and use as it's his fear of Rahman(which existed) A combination of Rahman and steroids retired Vitali. It is not a guess, but a fact that Vitali was a steroid user.


Not only that he attempted to 'drain' Wlad during the 96 Olympics, trying to force Wlad to fight at a drained state in the HW Division against Felix Savon as he himself fight in the SHW Division. What kind of big brother do this?

If i was Wlad's big brother, I will say 'Little Bro, let me drain myself and let me fight Felix Savon, you stay healthy'
Vitali didn't do this.

Luckily for Wlado, Vitali was kicked off the team for roids and Wlad stayed in his natural division and won the Gold.

 

felixtrinidad dont you have anything better to do with your life?