Vitali Klitschko vs Jersey Joe Walcott

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KeedCubano, Jun 20, 2021.


Who Wins and How?

  1. Walcott PTS

    7.1%
  2. Walcott KO

    7.1%
  3. Vitali PTS

    7.1%
  4. VItali KO

    78.6%
  5. Draw/Can't Decide

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Vitali - 47 fights 45 wins - 41 by KO ( highest in history) 2 losses - By injury in fights he was winning.

    Hardly ever lost a round against anyone, never off his feet, and legit 6' 7" that fought big.

    The only reason he is underrated still is that he would not fight his brother Wlad, who himself is one of the greatest champions ever.

    And yet

    Wlad himself, and everyone that fought both of them, said Vitali would have won if they fought. Did I mention he was also the Kickboxing Champion of the world?

    Criminally underrated. People grasp at injuries as the only way to stop him.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You don't know what his pain felt like so don't assume like you do. . If the pain was as you describe you would have clearly noticed it at any point during the 9 rounds.
    Nobody knew Vitali was injured until he quit so it mustn't have been that bad.

    Furthermore , you keep crying that Vitali was at a disadvantage , well Byrd was at an even bigger disadvantage. The man took the fight on a weeks notice and entered the ring having NEVER seen any footage on Vitali.
    On top of that Vitali had a 40 lb weight advantage.

    If Vitali was so great he should have done two things , ran through Byrd quicker than Ike did or win even with injury. . He did neither.

    Moral of the story is both men were hampered. Byrd was able to win while massively disadvantaged , Vitali wasn't. Vitali is overrated , especially by bum boys like you
     
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  3. Balder

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    He was complaining about the pain after round 3. It got worse. He had no idea what had happened to it and it was getting worse every round. At some point he was worried about losing the ability to use the arm permanently. and , yes, I have had that injury before and get what happened.

    Byrd was fighting a one armed fighter. He was still getting whipped. He was going to lose and lose by KO had Vitali not blown out the shoulder. Byrd got lucky with Vitali, and his brother Wlad blasted Byrd all over the ring and made him his b--ch. Byrd later went on to say VITALI was better than his brother even after Wlad stomped him so badly.

    But, don't let me get in the way of your delusions.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

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    No Byrd was not fighting a one armed fighter.. I'll show you what a one armed fighter looks like. Here. I watched that fight live and it was very clear that Povetkin suffered an injury. The viewer saw it and the commentators picked up on it. His right hand was gone

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    Now you show me Vitali complaining about pain in round 3..Show me the signs he was hurting? It should be easy , right? Just time stamp the video.

    I analyzed that fight and its pretty evident that Byrds style did not mesh with Vitali's , at all. Vitali was winning rounds from a Byrd who was trying to figure out what to do.
    He was adapting his gameplan mid fight and Vitali still could not stop , drop or even hurt him.

    As Byrd warmed into the fight he began to clown Vitali. He adjusted and began to counter Vitali with body shots. He was making him miss and Vitali was starting to look bafoonish.

    You have your biased opinions but my opinions that Byrd was a bad match-up for Vitali style wise is back up by the Fact Vitali avoided the rematch.
    He simply wanted no part of that style a second time.. And that tells you there was more to the loss than this injury nobody knew he had until he tapped out on his stool
     
  5. Safin

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    There's no point discussing anything with that guy. He's a peabrain.

    I see the Klitschko retirement vs Byrd as a bit of an insult to Byrd, because Vitali Klitschko probably didn't really care as much as many seem to think he should have, so he just retired to be on the safe side. There's no way Vitali would've retired against one of the big boys in the division, he'd have went life and death. The WBO belt was also not required to be undisputed back at that point and was lightly regarded in general. He did the right thing by retiring.

    6'7'' and used his height.
    Never down.
    Lost less than 10 rounds on the cards in his entire career.
    Highest KO percentage.
    Absolute warrior.
    Unorthodox - very difficult to prepare for.

    And people are discussing whether or not he would have beaten Walcott. Too funny.

    Vitali is sensational and is up there with the greatest ever. I could not pick a single guy to best him in a series of 3 bouts.

    haha!

    Byrd was such a bad match-up for Vitali that he couldn't win more than a round in their entire bout.
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're the guy who said Vitali would toy with Larry Holmes. . You also believe Andy Ruiz could train down to the size of Bivol and campaign at light heavy.
    You dont know anything about boxing. .

    And like that other guy , you completely ignore the facts that Byrd was hampered. You refuse to acknowledge it because you are a biased bumboy who has no clue just how hampering that was for Byrd
    Face the facts you Stan , Byrd got off the couch on a weeks notice and WON.
     
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  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He lost almost every round and just had a tricky style in general
     
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  8. Balder

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    He was losing against a one armed fighter. Hahaha

    Byrd was hampered....lol....i suppose tearing a rotator cuff in his shoulder would change nothing for him.
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Your ineptitude has now been exposed for all the forum to see. You simply could not rebuke that post. You failed hopelessly because you are biased. Facts and reality are on your side which is why you crumble to dust when challenged.

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  10. Balder

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    Rebuke you?

    You mean the fact that Vitali was complaining about his shoulder. He was. It kinda helps that he had to have surgery on it after the fight.

    I am taking some others advice and just dismissing you at this point.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    When? Show me
     
  12. Balder

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    Nah, I think I will let you believe he just quit on his stool while winning for no reason.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Because Vitali never complained about his shoulder at any point durig the 9 rounds. You've been disposed of , toddle off now
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    TKO6
     
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  15. Pepsi Dioxide

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    I like Walcott, but not in this fight. Walcott maybe has some success in frustrating Vitality but eventually the reach and power are going to be too much. Even giving Walcott modern day advantages (a few extra pounds, an extra inch or two in height possibly) I still think this is too big of an assignment for Walcott and he's eventually caught and KOd or he loses a decision getting dropped along the way.
     
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