Vitali Klitschko vs Jess Willard 15 rounds

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    How easily does Vitali win this?
     
  2. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very easily. Vitali spanks Willard.
     
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  3. Sting like a bean

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    Under 1915 rules I think it's entirely possible that Willard gives him a difficult fight in which he needs to exert himself and can't afford to coast. Here's one of the few films we have of Willard in his prime, and to me he looks to have frankly exceptional hand speed for a big man.

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    Part of that may very well be an illusion of the low frame rate, but even so if the running speed is correct the time between the full extension and retraction of his arm is impressive.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Vitali all the way.

    Willard frankly looked awful in many of his fights. Vitali has looked nothing less than masterful 90% of the time. Jess was big, tough, and had a good punch. But that's not enough to beat Vitali, just ask this guy:

    https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/132239
     
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  5. janitor

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    I should be able to make some mischief here after work!
     
  6. It's Ovah

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    I think it's practically impossible to rate any fighter's handspeed accurately with handcranked camera footage. The only thing you can do is estimate whether fighter A in the clip is faster than fighter B, and even that's prone to error.

    A 1% increase or decrease in film speed can have a very significant effect on a fighter's perceived handspeed, since you're dealing in such minute increments of time.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    There is a part of boxing that some do not like, but I do as long as a man's health is okay. It's the ability of a man to endure against the odds.

    Vitali would hit Willard was easy as a hanging heavy bag. How long would Willard last? One-sided, potentially ugly, and Willard would be stopped I think in the later rounds.
     
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  8. HerolGee

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    depends on rules. Willard would have trouble adapting to ruels today, get DQ. Vitali wins after taking a shoehorning.

    Vitali would get blasted out late in yesteryear since he would be looking at the ref half the time asking why hes letting the other guy act like an animal.
     
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  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Which fantasy world did you visit last, Herol? K-pax or the Matrix? Thanks for the morning laugh.
     
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  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I am basing it the time of boxing, not ability. What on earth do you mean then??

    oh i get. Mate, you need to learn to stop taking whiplash style offence at anything you portray as negative to a K bros, because my statement is CLEARLY AND BLATANTLY neutral toward Vits, one win, one loss. It is clearly you overreacting.
     
  11. BitPlayerVesti

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  12. John Galt

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    Well it’s usually too close to call when an Olympic caliber fighter meets a guy who never boxed until he was about 30...Willard, in the ring looks exactly like a man who started boxing training late in life. He lacks fundamentals and he was only successful because his opponents weren’t good and he was big. Willard as he was in his time would not be a top 100 heavyweight today.
     
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  14. edward morbius

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    Vitali easily. If these two fought ten times, I think it probable Vitali wins ten, or at least nine.

    I just don't see any advantage for Willard except perhaps stamina. But I wonder if Willard would look less like a stamina freak if he was pressed and had to fight at a faster pace by an opponent who had the height and reach like Vitali to reach him easily. In fairness to Willard, he might have come into boxing with a great deal of stamina because of doing really hard physical labor such as breaking fractious horses.

    As for Willard's hand speed (or speed generally), I think it impossible to judge because of his being filmed with old-fashioned hand-cranked cameras. Too much possible variation to accurately judge.
     
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  15. BitPlayerVesti

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