its even more curious you are still on a Frazier thread fishing for angles here...even after I posted stuff referencing that he did injure the shoulder before and during the Byrd fight as well as fight on with the same injury in the Chisora fight.... And no, little Frazier does not win here which that is what you wish you establish that somehow he quits against the EASY to hit WEAK chinned Frazier... :smooch Of course in your world Ruiz has a better resume than Vitali so that explains a lot in even replying to the nonsense you spill on here... :yep
And of course you're still unwilling to debate said resumes with me. Its ok though, you're the biggest laughingstock on this forum, its understandable you would want to save yourself further embarrassment. Lmao!!
I like the following posts from FOF and Rock 0052...I respect both fighters. I think Frazier can live with and possibly beat Vitali due to his record, and who he has fought and beat...But in saying that, Vitali would be a major problem, his style, strength, height, reach, and weight would be alot to ask Frazier to overcome...I think both are great for their times...Joe fought like he viewed boxing as life and death...Vitali viewed boxing as a sport...Just my 2 bits...
I am referring to that time, not anything after. So perhaps you'd like to explain why you are lying now. "whispered something to his brother" sounds like a kind of concession from you anyway, so maybe you are coming round.
Jesus. That you know nothing about boxing is pretty obvious, but you know even less about sound engineering. There is either an over head mic from the company filming the fight, or the close up camera being held by the cameraman has an inbuilt mic ( these are not the kind of sh itty camcorders that Joe public buys ) and in any event they pick up the words of EVERYONE in the corner who actually speaks. It was Vitali who said it hurt too much and he was quitting, whether you believe that or not, is of no consequence at all.
I am referring to the same you are, there is no ambiguity in my meaning.. there is nothing else following round 9 except for vitali speaking to his brother, presumably about quitting and not about where he was going clubbing tonight, plus the general hoohaa of the rest of the teas and staff chatting.
It's a simple choice really. We can either believe an impartial translator who doesn't give a sh it abut anyone called Klitchko, and provides his service for a fee. Or we can believe a Klitchko fan boy like you. It's a no brainer. Klitchko spoke, the translator picked up his words, translated them to English, as the fight was waved off.
if they are talking and the fight is stopped,. its on target to assume the talk had something to do with the stoppage. Its unlikelythe doc could diagnose a torn rotator cuff on the spot - he clearly didn't apply the tests necessary for it, therefore it wasn't the doc stopping it. I would assume the team wouldn't stop it for nothing. It was likely vitali. then stop reading kliturd posts.
Watch Chisora Vitali for what it would be. Chisora is not close to level of Frazier in any department (skill, power, movement). Then give your answer. Regardless of what german score were, Chisora gave hell to Vitali all night, he just was not able to release the punishment he set himself to be able to do. Frazier would release, big time.
so let me get this right - you are claiming that vitali had a torn rotator cuff DURING PREPARATION for... the fight? clarify please, cheers.
so he didn't have a torn rotator cuff previous to the fight at all, you are referring to an entirely different injury and categorically NOT an injury recurrence. fine.
The reason the fight was stopped was because Vitali indicated to his corner that he wanted it to be, stating, "it hurts too much". Your failure to accept the filmed evidence is as ridiculous as your other posts. You are an absurdity on this forum ,your only value is as comic relief.
so he didnt have a torn rotator cuff befroe the fight at all, in fact the rotator cuff tore in the fight. so no the same injury didnt get worse during the fight, not in the slightest. In fact noone sends a boxer into a fight WITH a torn rotator cuff, EVER, PERIOD. So in effect you lied, or were entirely wrong, earlier. ty thats all we needed to know, though let me remind you that you wrote this utterly patronisingly erronous reply earlier when you were holding onto this lie -